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| What did everyone think of last night's tv programme? As always, we became
very irritated with the number of plants whose name didn't appear onscreen,
though that improved when Carol Klein was in the marquee. But why oh why do
they, every year, take us away from Chelsea and off to other locations?
Chelsea is Chelsea. All those other places they show could be the subject
of another series of gardening programmes. I have no particular dislike of
Lawrence L-B but can't help wondering why he, an interior designer, has been
recruited to present a programme on Chelsea. Alan Titchmarsh did his usual
professional job - I think he's an excellent presenter but I did not welcome
the mercifully brief appearance of Diarmuid Gavin. I don't like his style,
I don't think he's a gardener and I find him incomprehensible.
We thought the Chinese garden was really beautiful. We loved that mossy
wall effect, though I've just read the feng shui is 'bad' - can't say I
really understand all that!
While I do think the presentation of Chelsea has improved immeasurably over
the past couple of years, I really don't understand why the programme makers
are frightened of making it just about Chelsea and of putting plant names on
screen.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) 2007-05-22, 9:25 am |
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"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:C2787517.4D2BA%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> What did everyone think of last night's tv programme? As always, we
> became
> very irritated with the number of plants whose name didn't appear
> onscreen,
> though that improved when Carol Klein was in the marquee. But why oh why
> do
> they, every year, take us away from Chelsea and off to other locations?
> Chelsea is Chelsea. All those other places they show could be the subject
> of another series of gardening programmes. I have no particular dislike
> of
> Lawrence L-B but can't help wondering why he, an interior designer, has
> been
> recruited to present a programme on Chelsea. Alan Titchmarsh did his
> usual
> professional job - I think he's an excellent presenter but I did not
> welcome
> the mercifully brief appearance of Diarmuid Gavin. I don't like his
> style,
> I don't think he's a gardener and I find him incomprehensible.
> We thought the Chinese garden was really beautiful. We loved that mossy
> wall effect, though I've just read the feng shui is 'bad' - can't say I
> really understand all that!
> While I do think the presentation of Chelsea has improved immeasurably
> over
> the past couple of years, I really don't understand why the programme
> makers
> are frightened of making it just about Chelsea and of putting plant names
> on
> screen.
>
>
> --
> Sacha
> http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> (remove weeds from address)
>
>
I suppose people will watch it en masse regardless of the content or lack of
plant names.
Someone said "You can reproduce your own bit of Chelsea in your garden"
I suppose they might be right if you have specialist plant
houses/refrigeration and all the tricks of the trade that gets everything to
flower at the right/same time. All very artificial -(people too)
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| On 22/5/07 10:40, in article 4652ba91@212.67.96.135, "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)"
<reply@newsgroups.com> wrote:
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> "Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:C2787517.4D2BA%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
<snip>
[color=darkred]
> I suppose people will watch it en masse regardless of the content or lack of
> plant names.
> Someone said "You can reproduce your own bit of Chelsea in your garden"
> I suppose they might be right if you have specialist plant
> houses/refrigeration and all the tricks of the trade that gets everything to
> flower at the right/same time. All very artificial -(people too)
>
>
I'm full of admiration for those that do all the preparation etc. but have
to admit it would try my patience to its absolute limit. I am not sure the
majority of the general public realise the refrigeration, pushing on,
holding back, exposing to light etc. etc. that has to be done for all those
plants to be seen at their very best. No, it's not natural but it is
supposed to be an example of the most excellent heights nurserymen and
gardeners can attain. If one had a time machine, it would be interesting to
go back to the days of Chelsea's early beginnings to see how things were
shown then.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| shazzbat 2007-05-22, 9:25 am |
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SNIP
> I suppose people will watch it en masse regardless of the content or lack
> of plant names.
> Someone said "You can reproduce your own bit of Chelsea in your garden"
The bit I want is a shed roof made of Sedum and Sempervivum plants. But
first I have to make the shed roof slope the right way, and make it strong
enough to take the weight. Maybe next year.
Steve
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| On 22/5/07 12:05, in article f2uipl$bu5$1@news.datemas.de, "shazzbat"
<shazzbat@spamlessness.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
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> SNIP
>
>
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> The bit I want is a shed roof made of Sedum and Sempervivum plants. But
> first I have to make the shed roof slope the right way, and make it strong
> enough to take the weight. Maybe next year.
>
> Steve
>
That was really pretty, I thought. In my old village someone had house
leeks on either side of the peaked porch roof and it looks just as if it was
wearing a flowery bonnet!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| La Puce 2007-05-22, 1:25 pm |
| On 22 May, 12:05, "shazzbat" <shazz...@spamlessness.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:
> The bit I want is a shed roof made of Sedum and Sempervivum plants. But
> first I have to make the shed roof slope the right way, and make it strong
> enough to take the weight. Maybe next year.
Just finished mine - not one sedum in sight but grasses and wild
flowers. One ton of soil up there ... it was a labour of love ;o)
Why do you need to wait?! And you don't necessarily need the roof to
slope either, as long as there's a good drainage.
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| Kate Morgan 2007-05-22, 1:25 pm |
| The program didn't do it for me but maybe it will be better tonight, cannot
quite put my finger on the reason, have to admit to falling asleep in the
middle and missing some, shouldn't blame the prog. for that I suppose. I did
see some brilliant iris but did not catch the name of them, must look more
carefully tonight.
kate
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| On 22/5/07 16:47, in article
46531105$0$8722$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, "Kate Morgan"
<katemorgan@btinternet.com> wrote:
> The program didn't do it for me but maybe it will be better tonight, cannot
> quite put my finger on the reason, have to admit to falling asleep in the
> middle and missing some, shouldn't blame the prog. for that I suppose. I did
> see some brilliant iris but did not catch the name of them, must look more
> carefully tonight.
>
> kate
>
I regret to say that we both nodded off for a few minutes at some point. I
don't know what it was about the programme - it was just rather flat and
seemed to be to be rather choppy in its format.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| Dave Hill 2007-05-22, 1:25 pm |
| On 22 May, 14:58, Sacha <s...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> On 22/5/07 12:05, in article f2uipl$bu...@news.datemas.de, "shazzbat"
>
>
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> <shazz...@spamlessness.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> That was really pretty, I thought. In my old village someone had house
> leeks on either side of the peaked porch roof and it looks just as if it was
> wearing a flowery bonnet!
>
> --
> Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> (remove weeds from address)
Sempervivum were known as House leeks because they were grown on the
cottage roofs and were used for the same things that Alo vera are now
used for.
They didn't have any need for special compost, for that matter they
had no compost.
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries
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| Kate Morgan 2007-05-22, 5:25 pm |
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> I regret to say that we both nodded off for a few minutes at some point.
> I
> don't know what it was about the programme - it was just rather flat and
> seemed to be to be rather choppy in its format.
>
> --
> Sacha
I am so glad that I was not alone in sleeping :-)
kate
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| On 22/5/07 20:46, in article
46534917$0$8739$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, "Kate Morgan"
<katemorgan@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I am so glad that I was not alone in sleeping :-)
>
> kate
>
Happened again this evening.... Somehow, this year's coverage just isn't
grabbing our attention. I awoke to Chris Beardshaw waxing eloquent and
enthusiastic about grasses and gave up!
I wish I knew enough to figure out what's happening. Is it the presenters -
doubt it because not many changes there - is it the format?
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| Stan The Man 2007-05-23, 3:25 am |
| In article <C2793095.4D41B%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>, Sacha
<sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>On 22/5/07 20:46, in article
>46534917$0$8739$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, "Kate Morgan"
><katemorgan@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
>Happened again this evening.... Somehow, this year's coverage just isn't
>grabbing our attention. I awoke to Chris Beardshaw waxing eloquent and
>enthusiastic about grasses and gave up!
>I wish I knew enough to figure out what's happening. Is it the presenters -
>doubt it because not many changes there - is it the format?
I think it's the script. A bit too contrived, too banal and a bit too
"humorous". Presenters are spending too much time "laughing" at each
other's wisecracks. There is also too much forced/false "excitement".
I wonder if any of the presenters will admit on air to be being
mystified about the RHS' choice for Best Garden... Huge areas without
any plants and totally irrelevant to anyone imho. And sponsored by one
of the main competitors to the overall Chelsea sponsor -- made me
wonder if the RHS had had a falling out with Marshalls and wanted to
give them a smack around the ear.
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| Broadback 2007-05-23, 9:25 am |
| Stan The Man wrote:
> In article <C2793095.4D41B%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>, Sacha
> <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> I think it's the script. A bit too contrived, too banal and a bit too
> "humorous". Presenters are spending too much time "laughing" at each
> other's wisecracks. There is also too much forced/false "excitement".
>
> I wonder if any of the presenters will admit on air to be being
> mystified about the RHS' choice for Best Garden... Huge areas without
> any plants and totally irrelevant to anyone imho. And sponsored by one
> of the main competitors to the overall Chelsea sponsor -- made me
> wonder if the RHS had had a falling out with Marshalls and wanted to
> give them a smack around the ear.
We have to accept that most gardening programmes, certainly Chelsea, are
not aimed a US (bit boastful that!) but at a mass audience, hence there
is little about gardening. The average TV watcher will barely get their
hands dirty, if they even have a garden, certainly will not want lists
of unpronounceable Latin names. To be fair it is not only gardeners who
pay a TV licence.
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| On 23/5/07 08:46, in article 230520070746257653%man@pr100.com, "Stan The
Man" <man@pr100.com> wrote:
> In article <C2793095.4D41B%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>, Sacha
> <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> I think it's the script. A bit too contrived, too banal and a bit too
> "humorous". Presenters are spending too much time "laughing" at each
> other's wisecracks. There is also too much forced/false "excitement".
That's the sort of idiotic thing they were doing a couple of years ago when
a lot of people, including many urglers, complained to both the RHS and BBC.
It was too much about the presenters and not enough about the designers,
nuserymen and plants. We had miles of AT and DG and others all gurning at
each other and falling over laughing at how clever they are. Monty Don has
written in an article that it's the thing he hates about GW - that bit at
the end when they all get together and have to be 'jolly' with each other.
It's so fake and so contrived that it's like watching a sort of muddy Blue
Peter.
>
> I wonder if any of the presenters will admit on air to be being
> mystified about the RHS' choice for Best Garden... Huge areas without
> any plants and totally irrelevant to anyone imho. And sponsored by one
> of the main competitors to the overall Chelsea sponsor -- made me
> wonder if the RHS had had a falling out with Marshalls and wanted to
> give them a smack around the ear.
OTOH, if Bradstone had won, we'd all be saying 'stitch up'. ;-)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| On 23/5/07 09:32, in article 5bichoF2sugtfU1@mid.individual.net, "Broadback"
<wen@towill.plus.com> wrote:
> Stan The Man wrote:
> We have to accept that most gardening programmes, certainly Chelsea, are
> not aimed a US (bit boastful that!) but at a mass audience, hence there
> is little about gardening. The average TV watcher will barely get their
> hands dirty, if they even have a garden, certainly will not want lists
> of unpronounceable Latin names. To be fair it is not only gardeners who
> pay a TV licence.
I don't see that there's much point in having hours of coverage of THE
showcase for gardeners, plantsmen, growers, nurserymen and designers and not
acknowledging they'd like to know something about the things being
showcased. Those not interested can switch over, switch off or perhaps just
tolerate the few minutes it would take.
The winner of the Best Garden is not of much interest to me because I think
that sort of thing is very subjective. Apparently the Linnaeus garden didn't
win because the trees were in bud, not full flower but that's ow the
designer wanted them. However, I *think* the rules state that if you're
going to show flowering plants they must be in flower.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| Janet Tweedy 2007-05-23, 9:25 am |
| In article <C2793095.4D41B%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>, Sacha
<sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>Happened again this evening.... Somehow, this year's coverage just isn't
>grabbing our attention. I awoke to Chris Beardshaw waxing eloquent and
>enthusiastic about grasses and gave up!
>I wish I knew enough to figure out what's happening. Is it the presenters -
>doubt it because not many changes there - is it the format?
>
I'm taping the afternoon programmes and the ones on The gardening
channel in the mornings etc. They all have a slightly different flavour
though I can't understand Lorraine Kelly's accent
At least you get to see different views of the plants.
I believe there are podcasts as well?
Good thing about Sky, I can sit down at any time and watch, then re run
them if I nod off or lose interest
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk
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| Draven 2007-05-24, 3:25 am |
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"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:C2787517.4D2BA%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> What did everyone think of last night's tv programme? As always, we
> became
> very irritated with the number of plants whose name didn't appear
> onscreen,
> though that improved when Carol Klein was in the marquee. But why oh why
> do
> they, every year, take us away from Chelsea and off to other locations?
> Chelsea is Chelsea. All those other places they show could be the subject
> of another series of gardening programmes. I have no particular dislike
> of
> Lawrence L-B but can't help wondering why he, an interior designer, has
> been
> recruited to present a programme on Chelsea. Alan Titchmarsh did his
> usual
> professional job - I think he's an excellent presenter but I did not
> welcome
> the mercifully brief appearance of Diarmuid Gavin. I don't like his
> style,
> I don't think he's a gardener and I find him incomprehensible.
> We thought the Chinese garden was really beautiful. We loved that mossy
> wall effect, though I've just read the feng shui is 'bad' - can't say I
> really understand all that!
> While I do think the presentation of Chelsea has improved immeasurably
> over
> the past couple of years, I really don't understand why the programme
> makers
> are frightened of making it just about Chelsea and of putting plant names
> on
> screen.
>
>
> --
> Sacha
> http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> (remove weeds from address)
>
Personally I wish they would show as many plants as possible with the names
on the screen.
No need for anyone to talk at all.
Must say I've been watching on BBC HD and the picture is breath taking.
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| On 24/5/07 09:04, in article %Fb5i.34605$085.2638@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk,
"Draven" <robbieusa@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:C2787517.4D2BA%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
<snip>
>
> Personally I wish they would show as many plants as possible with the names
> on the screen.
> No need for anyone to talk at all.
>
> Must say I've been watching on BBC HD and the picture is breath taking.
>
>
We've got a telly that does do that/will do that. Do we have to do anything
in particular to 'switch on to it', or is it there already?! Daft question,
I know but I'm getting to the stage of needing a spare 5 year old around the
house to programme everything!
As far as coverage of Chelsea goes, the only thing that's going to improve
it is the reaction of the viewers at home. I may say that we felt precisely
the same about Spotlight South West's coverage of the Devon County Show.
They didn't once visit the Flower and Garden Show marquee nor AFAIK, the Dog
Show marquee. At the very end of the last day's coverage, they had some
silly 'cook off' contest involving 3 of the presenters and some local chefs.
The time could have been much better spent showing the missed aspects of the
Show including more of the food producers who were there. Instead, it was
the dreaded celebrity joshing and "let's all have larks together" stuff that
is just cringe-making, IMO.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| Draven 2007-05-24, 1:25 pm |
|
"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:C27B4F19.4D7DE%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> On 24/5/07 09:04, in article
> %Fb5i.34605$085.2638@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk,
> "Draven" <robbieusa@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
> We've got a telly that does do that/will do that. Do we have to do
> anything
> in particular to 'switch on to it', or is it there already?! Daft
> question,
> I know but I'm getting to the stage of needing a spare 5 year old around
> the
> house to programme everything!
> As far as coverage of Chelsea goes, the only thing that's going to improve
> it is the reaction of the viewers at home. I may say that we felt
> precisely
> the same about Spotlight South West's coverage of the Devon County Show.
> They didn't once visit the Flower and Garden Show marquee nor AFAIK, the
> Dog
> Show marquee. At the very end of the last day's coverage, they had some
> silly 'cook off' contest involving 3 of the presenters and some local
> chefs.
> The time could have been much better spent showing the missed aspects of
> the
> Show including more of the food producers who were there. Instead, it was
> the dreaded celebrity joshing and "let's all have larks together" stuff
> that
> is just cringe-making, IMO.
> --
> Sacha
> http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
> (remove weeds from address)
>
You'll need a Sky+ box or a V+ (Virgin Media box).
I've got the latter.
On VM it's channel 108.
I've recorded them all, so far, on the V+ box so I can get what names have
been shown.
I loved the rose show but yet again they fleeted over the stand and only
showed a few of the display.
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| Dave Liquorice 2007-05-24, 1:25 pm |
| On Thu, 24 May 2007 14:18:01 +0100, Sacha wrote:
>
> We've got a telly that does do that/will do that. Do we have to do
> anything in particular to 'switch on to it', or is it there already?!
I don't think there are any terrestial HD transmissions outside of London
yet. So you'll need a HD capable digital sattelite receiver.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/digitaltv/faq_hd.shtml
--
Cheers new5pam@howhill.com
Dave. pam is missing e-mail
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| On 24/5/07 17:21, in article
nyyfbegfubjuvyypbz.jikdzp1.pminews@srv1.howhill.com, "Dave Liquorice"
<new5pam@howhill.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 14:18:01 +0100, Sacha wrote:
>
>
> I don't think there are any terrestial HD transmissions outside of London
> yet. So you'll need a HD capable digital sattelite receiver.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/digitaltv/faq_hd.shtml
We have a Sky box but are going to swap it for one of those BBC boxes. We
find the only thing we watch on Sky is UK TV Gold, which is ridiculous!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| Dave Liquorice 2007-05-24, 5:25 pm |
| On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:38:18 +0100, Sacha wrote:
> We have a Sky box but are going to swap it for one of those BBC boxes.
> We find the only thing we watch on Sky is UK TV Gold, which is
> ridiculous!
What do you mean by "one of those BBC boxes?" Your Sky box will continue
to work once any subscription has run out as a "Freesat from Sky" box, it
will receive all the Free To Air stuff (ie all BBC and ITV offerings) and
also the Free To View channesl (Channel 4 and five). Without a card from
Sky you won't be able to get the last two.
Obviously it won't be HD but then I don't think there is a "Freesat from
the BBC/ITV" HD box available yet.
--
Cheers new5pam@howhill.com
Dave. pam is missing e-mail
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| La Puce 2007-05-24, 5:25 pm |
| On 23 May, 12:31, Janet Tweedy <j...@lancedal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
(snipette)
It was telling that the entire judging
> panel was made up of Designers rather than horticulturalists and
> similar.
Then this site is for you. All your questions answered and more.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/talkwale...id_220501.shtml
And in this month The Garden there's an article about Roy Keating
controller of BBC2. He's been asked lots of questions about our
favourite gardening programmes. In the September issue, The Garden
will do an article with Carol Klein and we are invited to ask her
questions for that issue especially. That's our chance to ask our
burning question, did she or did she not grow potatoes before the
programme .... ;o)
But if I may add, I wish we would not always assumed that garden
designers are not gardeners. Very often they are, many are architects
too and many are artists. I think the fusion of all, especially
gardeners and artists collaborations results in fantastic gardens.
Chelsea is trying to appeal to everyone, not only gardeners. And times
are changing ...
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| On 24/5/07 22:09, in article
1180040978.309324.101450@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "La Puce"
<helene@rudlin.co.uk> wrote:
> On 23 May, 12:31, Janet Tweedy <j...@lancedal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> (snipette)
>
> It was telling that the entire judging
>
> Then this site is for you. All your questions answered and more.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/talkwale...ng/diarmuid_220
> 501.shtml
>
> And in this month The Garden there's an article about Roy Keating
> controller of BBC2. He's been asked lots of questions about our
> favourite gardening programmes. In the September issue, The Garden
> will do an article with Carol Klein and we are invited to ask her
> questions for that issue especially. That's our chance to ask our
> burning question, did she or did she not grow potatoes before the
> programme .... ;o)
>
> But if I may add, I wish we would not always assumed that garden
> designers are not gardeners. Very often they are, many are architects
> too and many are artists. I think the fusion of all, especially
> gardeners and artists collaborations results in fantastic gardens.
> Chelsea is trying to appeal to everyone, not only gardeners. And times
> are changing ...
>
All are judged on their merits. Some, we know from experience, are not
plantsmen or women.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| On 24/5/07 19:23, in article
nyyfbegfubjuvyypbz.jikjnp1.pminews@srv1.howhill.com, "Dave Liquorice"
<new5pam@howhill.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:38:18 +0100, Sacha wrote:
>
>
> What do you mean by "one of those BBC boxes?" Your Sky box will continue
> to work once any subscription has run out as a "Freesat from Sky" box, it
> will receive all the Free To Air stuff (ie all BBC and ITV offerings) and
> also the Free To View channesl (Channel 4 and five). Without a card from
> Sky you won't be able to get the last two.
>
> Obviously it won't be HD but then I don't think there is a "Freesat from
> the BBC/ITV" HD box available yet.
I'll look at the Beeb box tomorrow and email you (if I may) as to what it
is. We're planning to keep Sky but reduce our subscription considerably, if
the packages will allow us to do so. If not, we'll be rid of it.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
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| La Puce 2007-05-25, 9:25 am |
| On 24 May, 22:29, Sacha <s...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> On 24/5/07 22:09, in article
> 1180040978.309324.101...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "La Puce"
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> All are judged on their merits. Some, we know from experience, are not
> plantsmen or women.
Indeed they're judged on their merits - and that's a matter of
personnal taste combined with knowledge of garden styles. The comments
we've read or heard are usually about the design, about materials
used, about structures and colours and shapes, (and that's not only
about the wardrobe and hair style of the designer/presenter/
gardener ...(sic). I've heard little comments about planting if at all
- it's always about 'did she/he knows how to propagate or grow a
potatoe?'. To me that's like asking if an architect knows how to mix
mortar. Perhaps he/she did at sometimes, but that's not what he/she
does now.
On this basis, and the fact that I've got a dissertation to write, I
would be ever so grateful to know the garden designers some of you
know who are not gardeners/plantsmen or plantswomen. I can't think of
any and my bibliography is getting in the hundreds now.
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| Des Higgins 2007-05-25, 9:25 am |
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"Sacha" <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:C27BC24A.4D8F8%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk...
> On 24/5/07 22:09, in article
> 1180040978.309324.101450@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "La Puce"
> <helene@rudlin.co.uk> wrote:
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> All are judged on their merits. Some, we know from experience, are not
> plantsmen or women.
Oddly enough Diarmuid Gavin gets alot of stick for not seeming to like
plants but he actually does. I know some people (gardeners) who know him
and he served his time as a horticulturalist and working in garden shops and
as a gardener. He knows as much about plants as anyone.
I hate his Chelsea Show appearances but I love his crazy gardens and I used
to love his daft show with L.L.B.
Des
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> Sacha
> http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
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| Pam Moore 2007-05-25, 1:25 pm |
| On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:38:18 +0100, Sacha
<sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>We have a Sky box but are going to swap it for one of those BBC boxes. We
>find the only thing we watch on Sky is UK TV Gold, which is ridiculous!
I cannot get UK TV Gold on my Freeview box. Most annoying.
Pam in Bristol
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| On 25/5/07 17:07, in article bd2e53l6pt16865a4p5m108ardcmbfuhkk@4ax.com,
"Pam Moore" <NOSpam.moore@NOSPAMvirgin.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:38:18 +0100, Sacha
> <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
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> I cannot get UK TV Gold on my Freeview box. Most annoying.
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> Pam in Bristol
So I'm told. What we think we'll do is reduce the Sky subscription as
drastically as we can so as to retain UK TV Gold and use the Beeb box. But
it rankles slightly to pay to watch programmes we've already paid to watch
before via our licence fee!
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Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| La Puce 2007-05-31, 9:25 am |
| On 25 May, 12:23, "Des Higgins" <dazzhigg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Oddly enough Diarmuid Gavin gets alot of stick for not seeming to like
> plants but he actually does. I know some people (gardeners) who know him
> and he served his time as a horticulturalist and working in garden shops and
> as a gardener. He knows as much about plants as anyone.
> I hate his Chelsea Show appearances but I love his crazy gardens and I used
> to love his daft show with L.L.B.
Well, with all this rain Diarmuid's astrantia (from his Chelsea 2005
show garden) has grown into a magnificent clump. Bless him for
choosing one of my favourite flowers. I've just bought his book,
'Outer Spaces' and funilly enough now that I understand more about
garden design I find it so interesting and clever. I can't understand
him when he talks and true, I don't like him either in those shows,
but he has become an inspiration because he's good at what he does.
You ought to have done just like I did - watch none of the Chelsea
coverage on tv (I haven't even seen a trail), but read about it. It is
quite a different perspective and so much more enjoyable ;o)
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