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| David \(Normandy\) 2007-06-25, 1:25 pm |
| Nearly two inches of rain in 24 hours. Wet and getting wetter.
Perhaps time to consider alternative crops - like rice?
We don't have problems with mice nibbling at the vegetables any more - more
likelihood of them being nibbled by haddock.
David.
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| Martin 2007-06-25, 5:25 pm |
| On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:18:58 +0200, "David \(Normandy\)"
<DavidNormandy@spamme.not> wrote:
>Nearly two inches of rain in 24 hours. Wet and getting wetter.
>
>Perhaps time to consider alternative crops - like rice?
>
>We don't have problems with mice nibbling at the vegetables any more - more
>likelihood of them being nibbled by haddock.
First decapitated mouse of the season brought in by one of the cats last night.
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Martin
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| Nick Maclaren 2007-06-25, 5:25 pm |
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In article <467ff905$0$25906$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr>,
"David \(Normandy\)" <DavidNormandy@spamme.not> writes:
|> Nearly two inches of rain in 24 hours. Wet and getting wetter.
|>
|> Perhaps time to consider alternative crops - like rice?
Too bloody cold for that. The roots of several water plants (e.g.
club mace) contain a lot of starch - does anyone know what they
taste like?
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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| Martin 2007-06-25, 5:25 pm |
| On 25 Jun 2007 18:53:13 GMT, nmm1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
>
>In article <467ff905$0$25906$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr>,
>"David \(Normandy\)" <DavidNormandy@spamme.not> writes:
>|> Nearly two inches of rain in 24 hours. Wet and getting wetter.
>|>
>|> Perhaps time to consider alternative crops - like rice?
>
>Too bloody cold for that. The roots of several water plants (e.g.
>club mace) contain a lot of starch - does anyone know what they
>taste like?
Almost certainly Ray Mears does.
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscar...wres/rsln7l.jpg
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Martin
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| Bob Hobden 2007-06-25, 5:25 pm |
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote ...
after "David \(Normandy\)" writes:
> |> Nearly two inches of rain in 24 hours. Wet and getting wetter.
> |>
> |> Perhaps time to consider alternative crops - like rice?
>
> Too bloody cold for that. The roots of several water plants (e.g.
> club mace) contain a lot of starch - does anyone know what they
> taste like?
>
Didn't the poor used to make a flour and bread out of it? Or am I thinking
of another water plant.
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Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK
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| David \(Normandy\) 2007-06-25, 5:25 pm |
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"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:18:58 +0200, "David \(Normandy\)"
> <DavidNormandy@spamme.not> wrote:
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> First decapitated mouse of the season brought in by one of the cats last
> night.
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> Martin
The mice will evolve fins soon.
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David.
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| Martin 2007-06-25, 5:25 pm |
| On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:28:00 +0200, "David \(Normandy\)"
<DavidNormandy@spamme.not> wrote:
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>"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote in message
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[color=darkred]
>The mice will evolve fins soon.
The cats will have webbed feet first.
Have you seen the photos of floods in the Sheffield Barnsley area on the BBC
website?
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Martin
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| Kate Morgan 2007-06-25, 5:25 pm |
| snip
> Have you seen the photos of floods in the Sheffield Barnsley area on the
> BBC
> website?
> --
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> Martin
my daughter has just called to tell me that her allotment has been washed
away in Gloucestershire but that is not really bad when compared what others
are going thro.
That poor young man stuck down a manhole and a child washed away, doesn't
bear thinking about, my prayers and thoughts go out to the people close to
them.
kate
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| On 25/6/07 22:46, in article
468037e5$0$8726$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net, "Kate Morgan"
<katemorgan@btinternet.com> wrote:
> snip
>
> my daughter has just called to tell me that her allotment has been washed
> away in Gloucestershire but that is not really bad when compared what others
> are going thro.
> That poor young man stuck down a manhole and a child washed away, doesn't
> bear thinking about, my prayers and thoughts go out to the people close to
> them.
>
The horror of both those deaths and the manner of them just doesn't bear
thinking about. What their families must be suffering is simply dreadful.
It's awful for all those whose homes are damaged by floodwater but such
terrible deaths are unimaginable.
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Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| David \(Normandy\) 2007-06-26, 1:25 pm |
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"cliff_the_gardener" <cliff_the_gardener@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> David
> Fancy an allotment?
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/827203...57600198041848/
>
> Clifford
> Bawtry, Doncaster, South Yorkshire
Strange place to have an allotment - in the middle of a river?
Joking aside it must be awful getting your lotty flooded. Much damage?
I see on the news that much of the UK has suffered badly and people have
died.
Terrible business.
I've been tracking the rain fall on my rain gauge, hence my original
posting.
According to the forecast the weekend may be bad too. Unfortunately there is
little to be done to prevent all the damage. I'm just thankful our house and
garden are at the top of a slope so we are unlikely to get flooded.
David.
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| On 26/6/07 16:23, in article 46812f6e$0$25928$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr,
"David (Normandy)" <DavidNormandy@spamme.not> wrote:
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> "cliff_the_gardener" <cliff_the_gardener@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1182867433.220673.162100@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> Strange place to have an allotment - in the middle of a river?
> Joking aside it must be awful getting your lotty flooded. Much damage?
> I see on the news that much of the UK has suffered badly and people have
> died.
> Terrible business.
> I've been tracking the rain fall on my rain gauge, hence my original
> posting.
> According to the forecast the weekend may be bad too. Unfortunately there is
> little to be done to prevent all the damage. I'm just thankful our house and
> garden are at the top of a slope so we are unlikely to get flooded.
>
> David.
>
>
As small consolation, we have a bit of sun here, though followed by dark
clouds. And the barometer is going up a bit towards 'Fair'.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| Alan Holmes 2007-06-26, 5:25 pm |
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"David (Normandy)" <DavidNormandy@spamme.not> wrote in message
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> "cliff_the_gardener" <cliff_the_gardener@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1182867433.220673.162100@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> Strange place to have an allotment - in the middle of a river?
> Joking aside it must be awful getting your lotty flooded. Much damage?
> I see on the news that much of the UK has suffered badly and people have
> died.
> Terrible business.
> I've been tracking the rain fall on my rain gauge, hence my original
> posting.
> According to the forecast the weekend may be bad too. Unfortunately there
> is little to be done to prevent all the damage. I'm just thankful our
> house and garden are at the top of a slope so we are unlikely to get
> flooded.
And it's all down to global warming!
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| Broadback 2007-06-27, 9:25 am |
| David (Normandy) wrote:
> "Alan Holmes" <alan_holmes@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Quite likely, but I suspect no serious steps will be taken by any
> governments until the trend is too late to reverse. Be interesting to know
> where the next "stable point" regarding the weather will be and whether it
> is beyond the extremes of human survival.
>
> David.
>
>
But global warming was bringing mild wet Winters and hot dry Summers. So
another thing the experts have got wrong, like the cause, unless the
Martians are generating lots of carbon dioxide as well, because Mars is
warming up also. Still yet another excuse to get more taxes from us, so
that politicians and civil servants can be sure of their inflation proof
pensions.
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| David \(Normandy\) 2007-06-27, 9:25 am |
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"Alan Holmes" <alan_holmes@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "David (Normandy)" <DavidNormandy@spamme.not> wrote in message
> news:46812f6e$0$25928$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
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> And it's all down to global warming!
>
>
Quite likely, but I suspect no serious steps will be taken by any
governments until the trend is too late to reverse. Be interesting to know
where the next "stable point" regarding the weather will be and whether it
is beyond the extremes of human survival.
David.
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| Alan Holmes 2007-06-27, 9:25 am |
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"David (Normandy)" <DavidNormandy@spamme.not> wrote in message
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> "Alan Holmes" <alan_holmes@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:GEfgi.4986$ri2.1377@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
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> Quite likely, but I suspect no serious steps will be taken by any
> governments until the trend is too late to reverse. Be interesting to know
> where the next "stable point" regarding the weather will be and whether it
> is beyond the extremes of human survival.
I was trying to be cynical!
So called 'global warming' is a con to extract more money from us in
unnecessary taxation.
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| David \(Normandy\) 2007-06-27, 1:25 pm |
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"Alan Holmes" <alan_holmes@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "David (Normandy)" <DavidNormandy@spamme.not> wrote in message
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> I was trying to be cynical!
>
> So called 'global warming' is a con to extract more money from us in
> unnecessary taxation.
>
>
Alan, while I share your cynicism about Governments and taxation I don't
share your belief that global warning doesn't exist. Governments definitely
make as much political capital as they can out of any situation. As a
consequence it creates disbelief about anything they say.
I have a scientific background and have been following the detailed science
behind global warning for many years. There is an huge amount of evidence to
say it does exist.
http://environment.newscientist.com...l/earth/dn11462
The big question is what is the cause of it? Here too the scientific
evidence points towards it being man made, but this is not a 100% cast iron
certainty. Unfortunately proof in this area is a bit like proving that
playing Russian roulette with a six shooter loaded with a single bullet is
dangerous. "Click" - I'm still alive so strong evidence that it is not
dangerous?
If the cause of global warming does indeed turn out to be man made, then I
don't expect there to be conclusive proof until it has gone so far as to be
irreversible by man. The average man in the street will then blame
scientists and governments for not acting before it was too late.
Until then the belief of the masses will be like the captain of the Titanic
who reportedly said "We are unsinkable".
David.
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| Broadback <wen@towill.plus.com> writes
>David (Normandy) wrote:
No steps will be taken until enough people feel it is enough of a
problem to be worth bearing the inevitable pain of trying to do
something about it. I was hoping that the last week's events would help
shift towards that and away from the attitude 'global warning? Britain
like the south of France? Bring it on!'[color=darkred]
>But global warming was bringing mild wet Winters and hot dry Summers.
It was also bringing many more extreme events, which is precisely what
we are seeing.
>So another thing the experts have got wrong, like the cause, unless the
>Martians are generating lots of carbon dioxide as well, because Mars is
>warming up also. Still yet another excuse to get more taxes from us, so
>that politicians and civil servants can be sure of their inflation
>proof pensions.
Well, I suppose I can still hope.
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Kay
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| Alan Holmes <alan_holmes@nowhere.com> writes
>So called 'global warming' is a con to extract more money from us in
>unnecessary taxation.
>
>
So to what do you ascribe the changes in weather that you have seen over
your lifetime?
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Kay
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| brian mitchell 2007-06-27, 8:25 pm |
| Broadback wrote:
> But global warming was bringing mild wet Winters and hot dry Summers. So
> another thing the experts have got wrong, like the cause, unless the
> Martians are generating lots of carbon dioxide as well, because Mars is
> warming up also...
There is apparently evidence that the sun is putting out more energy,
which might help to account for Mars, but that's all the more reason to
try to stabilise --and even better, reduce-- the concentrations of
greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. One doesn't generally want to wear a
heavy overcoat on a hot summer day.
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| Alan Holmes 2007-06-28, 5:25 pm |
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"K" <k@scarboro.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Broadback <wen@towill.plus.com> writes
>
> No steps will be taken until enough people feel it is enough of a problem
> to be worth bearing the inevitable pain of trying to do something about
> it. I was hoping that the last week's events would help shift towards that
> and away from the attitude 'global warning? Britain like the south of
> France? Bring it on!'
>
> It was also bringing many more extreme events, which is precisely what we
> are seeing.
>
>
> Well, I suppose I can still hope.
What, for an inflation proof pension!(:-)
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| Alan Holmes 2007-06-28, 5:25 pm |
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"K" <k@scarboro.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Alan Holmes <alan_holmes@nowhere.com> writes
>
> So to what do you ascribe the changes in weather that you have seen over
> your lifetime?
A natural change which has been going on for thousands of years, nothing to
do with me owning a motor car and driving it around.
If there really was a danger from the use of vehicles burning fuel, surely
the first step to slow down the problem would be to cut the hundreds of
thousands of aircraft flights each year, every minute of the day 300 people
fly over my house from 6.00am to 11.30pm, using enough fuel to power about a
million cars for 20 years. But this is not apparently a problem, it is me
leaving my tv on standby!
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| DavidG 2007-06-29, 9:25 am |
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"Alan Holmes" <alan_holmes@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "K" <k@scarboro.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:XVmP+ZCeYtgGFww9@scarboro.demon.co.uk...
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> A natural change which has been going on for thousands of years, nothing
> to do with me owning a motor car and driving it around.
>
> If there really was a danger from the use of vehicles burning fuel, surely
> the first step to slow down the problem would be to cut the hundreds of
> thousands of aircraft flights each year, every minute of the day 300
> people fly over my house from 6.00am to 11.30pm, using enough fuel to
> power about a million cars for 20 years. But this is not apparently a
> problem, it is me leaving my tv on standby!
>
>
You will probbaly have seen the recent news that global warming has been
discovered on Mars too ?
Too many people it seems associate global warming with man-made global
warming and treat them as if they are the same thing.
....and politicians will not tell the truth - that there is nothing
whatsoever we can do to stop it.
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| Martin 2007-06-29, 1:25 pm |
| On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:16:41 +0100, "DavidG" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>"Alan Holmes" <alan_holmes@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:X5Wgi.6176$nE2.4501@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>You will probbaly have seen the recent news that global warming has been
>discovered on Mars too ?
>
>Too many people it seems associate global warming with man-made global
>warming and treat them as if they are the same thing.
Especially "a consensus of scientists".
>
>...and politicians will not tell the truth - that there is nothing
>whatsoever we can do to stop it.
Many expert scientists say the same thing about global warming as politicians.
How do we make them tell the "truth"?
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Martin
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