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| Late last year, Ray planted two Acacias fairly close to the house because we
thought the scent and the yellow of the flowers would look good in that
particular spot. To our surprise they flowered this year BUT have only
finished about two weeks ago *and* the flowers were a white/pale grey
colour. Anyone know which this is or do we just have two anaemic Acacias?
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| In message <C2AC1869.51268%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>, Sacha
<sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>Late last year, Ray planted two Acacias fairly close to the house because we
>thought the scent and the yellow of the flowers would look good in that
>particular spot. To our surprise they flowered this year BUT have only
>finished about two weeks ago *and* the flowers were a white/pale grey
>colour. Anyone know which this is or do we just have two anaemic Acacias?
>
In Hungary what is generally known as acacia is in fact robinia
pseudoacacia. There is also a variety with pink blossom: Robinia
pseudoacacia Casque Rouge.
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Klara, Gatwick basin
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| Dave Poole 2007-06-30, 5:25 pm |
| On Jun 30, 7:07 pm, Klara <klara.k...@nospams.co.uk> wrote:
> In Hungary what is generally known as acacia is in fact robinia
> pseudoacacia. There is also a variety with pink blossom: Robinia
> pseudoacacia Casque Rouge.
No, every aspect of Robinia is significantly different from that of
any Acacia at the very first glance. Both Sacha and Ray are very
familiar with both genera and could not mistake them. I can't help
wondering whether this may be Acacia elata - I should have paid
attention a few weeks ago. It is not widely seem in the UK, but does
occasionally make an appearance from haphazardly collected seeds.
Compared to A. dealbata, the foliage is slightly more lush and glossy
green rather than silver grey. It flowers later than dealbata with
racemes of creamy white, globose flowers heads (about one third larger
than dealbata). It is grown in the eastern Med and to my mind is a
very attractive tree.
There used to be a very fine example in the front garden of a house up
on the hill from here. It started flowering in late March and was
still carrying flowers in July. During the long hot summer of 1990 it
flowered almost continuously through to October. New owners a few
years later replaced it with a mountain ash. Morons! It is less
hardy than dealbata and probably only suitable for planting in the
southernmost counties. I can't remember there being any significant
fragrance, but that does not mean there is none.
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| Emrys Davies 2007-06-30, 5:25 pm |
| "Klara" <klara.king@nospams.co.uk> wrote in message
news:pQK96QFpvphGFAu6@comcrafts.demon.co.uk...
> In message <C2AC1869.51268%sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>, Sacha
> <sacha@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
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> In Hungary what is generally known as acacia is in fact robinia
> pseudoacacia. There is also a variety with pink blossom: Robinia
> pseudoacacia Casque Rouge.
>
>
> --
> Klara, Gatwick basin
This could well be it http://tinyurl.com/2g94ml
Regards,
Emrys Davies.
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| Emrys Davies 2007-06-30, 5:25 pm |
| "Dave Poole" <daverpoole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183233916.940804.177590@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 30, 7:07 pm, Klara <klara.k...@nospams.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> No, every aspect of Robinia is significantly different from that of
> any Acacia at the very first glance. Both Sacha and Ray are very
> familiar with both genera and could not mistake them. I can't help
> wondering whether this may be Acacia elata - I should have paid
> attention a few weeks ago. It is not widely seem in the UK, but does
> occasionally make an appearance from haphazardly collected seeds.
> Compared to A. dealbata, the foliage is slightly more lush and glossy
> green rather than silver grey. It flowers later than dealbata with
> racemes of creamy white, globose flowers heads (about one third larger
> than dealbata). It is grown in the eastern Med and to my mind is a
> very attractive tree.
>
> There used to be a very fine example in the front garden of a house up
> on the hill from here. It started flowering in late March and was
> still carrying flowers in July. During the long hot summer of 1990 it
> flowered almost continuously through to October. New owners a few
> years later replaced it with a mountain ash. Morons! It is less
> hardy than dealbata and probably only suitable for planting in the
> southernmost counties. I can't remember there being any significant
> fragrance, but that does not mean there is none.
This could well be it http://tinyurl.com/2g94ml
Regards,
Emrys Davies.
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| Charlie Pridham 2007-06-30, 5:25 pm |
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"Dave Poole" <daverpoole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183233916.940804.177590@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 30, 7:07 pm, Klara <klara.k...@nospams.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> No, every aspect of Robinia is significantly different from that of
> any Acacia at the very first glance. Both Sacha and Ray are very
> familiar with both genera and could not mistake them. I can't help
> wondering whether this may be Acacia elata - I should have paid
> attention a few weeks ago. It is not widely seem in the UK, but does
> occasionally make an appearance from haphazardly collected seeds.
> Compared to A. dealbata, the foliage is slightly more lush and glossy
> green rather than silver grey. It flowers later than dealbata with
> racemes of creamy white, globose flowers heads (about one third larger
> than dealbata). It is grown in the eastern Med and to my mind is a
> very attractive tree.
>
> There used to be a very fine example in the front garden of a house up
> on the hill from here. It started flowering in late March and was
> still carrying flowers in July. During the long hot summer of 1990 it
> flowered almost continuously through to October. New owners a few
> years later replaced it with a mountain ash. Morons! It is less
> hardy than dealbata and probably only suitable for planting in the
> southernmost counties. I can't remember there being any significant
> fragrance, but that does not mean there is none.
>
Would this be the same one we see flowering under the Eucalypts on Madeira
in October? flowers paler than dealbata foliage similar too but not quite
the same - been wondering what it is!
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea
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| On 30/6/07 21:11, in article 4686b8d5$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com,
"Emrys Davies" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> "Klara" <klara.king@nospams.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:pQK96QFpvphGFAu6@comcrafts.demon.co.uk...
> because we
> that
> only
> Acacias?
>
> This could well be it http://tinyurl.com/2g94ml
>
> Regards,
> Emrys Davies.
>
>
No, none of those. But thank you. Nor is it at all like a Robinia.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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| On 30/6/07 23:04, in article 5eo21iF38kgvaU1@mid.individual.net, "Charlie
Pridham" <charlie.pridham@lineone.net> wrote:
>
> "Dave Poole" <daverpoole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1183233916.940804.177590@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Would this be the same one we see flowering under the Eucalypts on Madeira
> in October? flowers paler than dealbata foliage similar too but not quite
> the same - been wondering what it is!
I think David's suggestion of A. elata is the more likely. But it was
flowering earlier this month and from late May. Very stupidly, we didn't
think to show it to David when he was here a few weeks ago so that we could
get his opinion. This is going to turn into one of those 'arguable' plants
we have like the Passiflora David knows all too well and which he thinks is
the 'lost' P. John Innes but others thinks is P. belotii, or is it P.
quadrangularis, David? I am now so confused between all those possibles
that I get very flummoxed. Ray and I were talking today about the other
Passiflora we have on the left side of the small double - it has enormous
heart shaped leaves and it flowered two years ago for the first time. Ray
has had it at least ten years. Do either of you know/remember the name of
that?! We have had total brain fade on it! I think you saw it last time
you were here Charlie?
BTW, the Pandorea is looking wonderful, Thunbergia greggii is romping up a
pillar in one of the greenhouses and a Dipladenia in a pot is going up a
pillar on the lawn and starting to take hold of the ropes. We'll take it in
for the winter but in the meantime, it's looking very happy. And the tall
Diascia we got at Hampton Court last year is proving to be a really sturdy
plant and a good 'doer'. I recommend it very highly.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
(remove weeds from address)
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