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| judith 2008-03-15, 1:25 pm |
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I have grown Sungold tomatoes every year for about the last ten years.
I always bought seed from Thompson & Morgan - indeed, I was originally
told that they were the only people you could get them from as it was
"their" variety.
I now see that this is incorrect - and you can buy from any number of
sources - (too late from this year - already bought T&M)
I have noticed that there is great variation in the prices - eg ten
seeds for 3 pounds or thirty seeds for three pounds.
My question is : is it worth paying more for such seeds or are the
cheaper ones fine?
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| someone 2008-03-15, 8:25 pm |
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"judith" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> I have grown Sungold tomatoes every year for about the last ten years.
> I always bought seed from Thompson & Morgan - indeed, I was originally
> told that they were the only people you could get them from as it was
> "their" variety.
>
> I now see that this is incorrect - and you can buy from any number of
> sources - (too late from this year - already bought T&M)
>
> I have noticed that there is great variation in the prices - eg ten
> seeds for 3 pounds or thirty seeds for three pounds.
>
> My question is : is it worth paying more for such seeds or are the
> cheaper ones fine?
>
Over the years I have tried a lot of seed merchants. I had a bad experience
with T&M last year and would not use them again. Their seeds are expensive
and their live plants didn't do well for me (after I'd paid in 2007, they
told me that the plants I wanted wouldn't be available until a year later,
and the ones that arrived in 2007 came as small cuttings, with nothing
around their roots, so they promptly died).
We have shops like Aldi, Lidl and Wilkinson's in our area, and Wilko's seeds
are 29p a packet. You don't get many seeds, but who needs more than 10
tomato seeds of any variety? I've found their seeds very reliable. Lidl is
also good because, being a German company, they sell slightly different
things, e.g. yellow string beans, as well as the regular green ones. They
of course sell all the normal flowers and vegetable seeds.
I can recommend Franchi Italian seeds as well, they have interesting
varieties, although they're pricier. Their Cavolo Nero is to die for.
http://www.seedsofitaly.com/
If you've been growing Sungold for all these years, you should be saving
seed yourself from your tomatoes. Tomato seeds are very hardy and
long-lived, as are all the brassicas and squashes. Carrot and onion seeds
are very short-lived and not worth storing from one year to the next.
HTH
someone
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| judithsmith@live.co.uk 2008-03-16, 3:25 am |
| On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:56:06 -0000, "someone" <someone@flibbernet.com>
wrote:
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>"judith" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:1ppnt3d5q6lug39aab5s63hunsrmhus46l@4ax.com...
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>Over the years I have tried a lot of seed merchants. I had a bad experience
>with T&M last year and would not use them again. Their seeds are expensive
>and their live plants didn't do well for me (after I'd paid in 2007, they
>told me that the plants I wanted wouldn't be available until a year later,
>and the ones that arrived in 2007 came as small cuttings, with nothing
>around their roots, so they promptly died).
>
>We have shops like Aldi, Lidl and Wilkinson's in our area, and Wilko's seeds
>are 29p a packet. You don't get many seeds, but who needs more than 10
>tomato seeds of any variety? I've found their seeds very reliable. Lidl is
>also good because, being a German company, they sell slightly different
>things, e.g. yellow string beans, as well as the regular green ones. They
>of course sell all the normal flowers and vegetable seeds.
>
>I can recommend Franchi Italian seeds as well, they have interesting
>varieties, although they're pricier. Their Cavolo Nero is to die for.
>
>http://www.seedsofitaly.com/
>
>If you've been growing Sungold for all these years, you should be saving
>seed yourself from your tomatoes. Tomato seeds are very hardy and
>long-lived, as are all the brassicas and squashes. Carrot and onion seeds
>are very short-lived and not worth storing from one year to the next.
>
>HTH
>
>someone
>
Thanks for comments.
(Sungold are F1 hybrids and will not reproduce same next season so I
have to buy new seeds every year)
--
judith.
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| Des Higgins 2008-03-16, 9:25 am |
| On Mar 16, 4:41=A0am, judithsm...@live.co.uk wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:56:06 -0000, "someone" <some...@flibbernet.com>
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> (Sungold are F1 hybrids and will not reproduce same next season so I
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> --
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You are right (F1 etc.). I also find Sungold very expensive but worth
it as they are the one variety that I have grown so far that spouse
and kids agree are really really worth the effort. Other tomatoes are
nice and it is very fulfilling to grow them from seed etc. but Sungold
are magic. What annoys me about the price is not the money but the
tiny number of seeds you get in most packets leaving no room for
mistakes.
Des
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| On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:40:21 -0700 (PDT), Des Higgins wrote:
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> On Mar 16, 4:41_am, judithsm...@live.co.uk wrote:
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> You are right (F1 etc.). I also find Sungold very expensive but worth
> it as they are the one variety that I have grown so far that spouse
> and kids agree are really really worth the effort. Other tomatoes are
> nice and it is very fulfilling to grow them from seed etc. but Sungold
> are magic. What annoys me about the price is not the money but the
> tiny number of seeds you get in most packets leaving no room for
> mistakes.
>
> Des
>
I've never grown Sungold but I'll definitely try them this year. Will it
be too late to sow seed towards the end of April do you think as I cannot
do so before as we are away for 10 days during that month and I wouldn't
trust anyone looking after our cats to water the seeds.
--
"I've learned that even when I have pains,
I don't have to be one."
http://www.copelands.plus.com/val/
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| judithsmith@live.co.uk 2008-03-16, 9:25 am |
| On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:47:39 +0000, Rosie <notme@privacy.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:40:21 -0700 (PDT), Des Higgins wrote:
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>I've never grown Sungold but I'll definitely try them this year. Will it
>be too late to sow seed towards the end of April do you think as I cannot
>do so before as we are away for 10 days during that month and I wouldn't
>trust anyone looking after our cats to water the seeds.
I have sown in late April in previous years. One year intentionally
left two fruit on the plants and picked them on Christmas Day (just
to be able so say - as here - that I had had own grown toms at
Christmas ;-)
--
judith.
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| On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:23:57 +0000, judithsmith@live.co.uk wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:47:39 +0000, Rosie <notme@privacy.net> wrote:
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> I have sown in late April in previous years. One year intentionally
> left two fruit on the plants and picked them on Christmas Day (just
> to be able so say - as here - that I had had own grown toms at
> Christmas ;-)
Thank you, I'll buy some seeds and see what happens 
--
"It is easier to forgive an enemy than to forgive a friend."
http://www.copelands.plus.com/val/
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| Judith in France 2008-03-16, 9:25 am |
| On Mar 16, 10:27 am, Rosie <no...@privacy.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:23:57 +0000, judithsm...@live.co.uk wrote:
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> Thank you, I'll buy some seeds and see what happens
> --
> "It is easier to forgive an enemy than to forgive a friend."http://www.copelands.plus.com/val/
Why not wait until you are in Italy, you will eat so many tomatoes and
love them especially with olive oil and Basil, that you may well find
one that you really want to taste again, bring the seeds back with
you?
Judith
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| On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:37:49 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France wrote:
> On Mar 16, 10:27 am, Rosie <no...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> Why not wait until you are in Italy, you will eat so many tomatoes and
> love them especially with olive oil and Basil, that you may well find
> one that you really want to taste again, bring the seeds back with
> you?
>
> Judith
excellent suggestion, thanks
--
The best sermons are lived, not preached.
http://www.copelands.plus.com/val/
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| Mary Fisher 2008-03-16, 9:25 am |
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"someone" <someone@flibbernet.com> wrote in message
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> "judith" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Over the years I have tried a lot of seed merchants. I had a bad
> experience with T&M last year and would not use them again. Their seeds
> are expensive and their live plants didn't do well for me (after I'd paid
> in 2007, they told me that the plants I wanted wouldn't be available until
> a year later, and the ones that arrived in 2007 came as small cuttings,
> with nothing around their roots, so they promptly died).
I've had similar experiences with them, and a fucshia I ordered wasn't wht
was advertised. They haven't replied to my e-mails about it. I'm not
ordering from them again despite receiving e-mails and paper catalogues
several times a week. Someobdy has to pay for all that.
>
> We have shops like Aldi, Lidl and Wilkinson's in our area, and Wilko's
> seeds are 29p a packet. You don't get many seeds, but who needs more than
> 10 tomato seeds of any variety?
That's more than enough for me too.
> I've found their seeds very reliable. Lidl is also good because, being a
> German company, they sell slightly different things, e.g. yellow string
> beans, as well as the regular green ones.
I didn't know that, thanks, I'll have a look.
>
> If you've been growing Sungold for all these years, you should be saving
> seed yourself from your tomatoes. Tomato seeds are very hardy and
> long-lived,
Yes, and in my experience they come true.
Mary
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| Dave H 2008-03-16, 9:25 am |
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If you go on the booze run to France, the supermarkets have seeds at
most times of the year. In ("It is I...)Leclerc's you can get packets of
50-odd cucumber seeds for about 50p. In this country it is about 4 seeds
for £3.
I also agree that Franchi are very good and plenty of seeds for your money.
Aitch
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| Mary Fisher 2008-03-16, 9:25 am |
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"Dave H" <d.harris@virginMEDIA.net> wrote in message
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> If you go on the booze run to France, the supermarkets have seeds at most
> times of the year. In ("It is I...)Leclerc's you can get packets of 50-odd
> cucumber seeds for about 50p. In this country it is about 4 seeds for £3.
I've never seen so few cucumber seeds in any packet.
What amateur grows 50 cucumber plants at a time - especially of the same
type? Nobody needs 50. Even the Fr*nch.
Mary
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| Judith in France 2008-03-16, 1:25 pm |
| On Mar 16, 1:17 pm, Dave H <d.har...@virginMEDIA.net> wrote:
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> If you go on the booze run to France, the supermarkets have seeds at
> most times of the year. In ("It is I...)Leclerc's you can get packets of
> 50-odd cucumber seeds for about 50p. In this country it is about 4 seeds
> for =A33.
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> Aitch
You are quite right, seeds are so cheap here. I was in a
horticultural place yesterday buying a rotovator and all the seeds
including F1 hybrids were 1 euro and lower. If anyone wants seeds,
email me and I will get them and post them to you.
Judith
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| judithsmith@live.co.uk 2008-03-16, 1:25 pm |
| On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:16:02 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
<mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
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>"someone" <someone@flibbernet.com> wrote in message
>news:47dc53f4$0$21858$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
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>I've had similar experiences with them, and a fucshia I ordered wasn't wht
>was advertised. They haven't replied to my e-mails about it. I'm not
>ordering from them again despite receiving e-mails and paper catalogues
>several times a week. Someobdy has to pay for all that.
I also have not been happy (over and above the price of their seeds);
I also get any number of catalogues from them. Earlier in the spring
I sat down and decided what I wanted and tried to order on-line - with
no success. I then telephoned to place my order and was told that as
I was ordering from three different catalogues - I would have to place
three separate orders !!!!
I declined this suggestion.
--
judith.
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| Judith in France 2008-03-16, 1:25 pm |
| On Mar 16, 3:06 pm, judithsm...@live.co.uk wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:16:02 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
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> <mary.fis...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
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> I also have not been happy (over and above the price of their seeds);
> I also get any number of catalogues from them. Earlier in the spring
> I sat down and decided what I wanted and tried to order on-line - with
> no success. I then telephoned to place my order and was told that as
> I was ordering from three different catalogues - I would have to place
> three separate orders !!!!
>
> I declined this suggestion.
>
> --
>
> judith.
If you would like to email me, I am happy to buy whatever seeds you
need and forward them to you.
Judith
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| judithsmith@live.co.uk 2008-03-16, 1:25 pm |
| On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:00:59 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
<judith.lea99@googlemail.com> wrote:
>On Mar 16, 3:06 pm, judithsm...@live.co.uk wrote:
>
>If you would like to email me, I am happy to buy whatever seeds you
>need and forward them to you.
>
>Judith
Many thanks - but I have bought in all that I expect to use for this
year.
(I'll remember you for next year though ;-)
--
judith.
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| On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:00:59 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France wrote:
> On Mar 16, 3:06 pm, judithsm...@live.co.uk wrote:
>
> If you would like to email me, I am happy to buy whatever seeds you
> need and forward them to you.
>
> Judith
can you get Sungold tomato seeds in France Judith?
--
Don't take the wrong side of an argument
just because your opponent has taken the right side.
http://www.copelands.plus.com/val/
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| Mary Fisher 2008-03-16, 1:25 pm |
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<judithsmith@live.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:16:02 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
> <mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
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> I also have not been happy (over and above the price of their seeds);
> I also get any number of catalogues from them. Earlier in the spring
> I sat down and decided what I wanted and tried to order on-line - with
> no success. I then telephoned to place my order and was told that as
> I was ordering from three different catalogues - I would have to place
> three separate orders !!!!
and no doubt three separate p&p charges ...
>
> I declined this suggestion.
Well done.
Mary
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> --
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> judith.
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| Rosie <notme@privacy.net> writes
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>I've never grown Sungold but I'll definitely try them this year. Will it
>be too late to sow seed towards the end of April do you think as I cannot
>do so before as we are away for 10 days during that month and I wouldn't
>trust anyone looking after our cats to water the seeds.
I try to sow seeds just before a holiday. They'll take 1-2 weeks to
germinate, and if they are in a sealed container (a propagator with the
lid closed, or a big clear plastic bag enclosing the seed tray) the soil
will not dry out, and the seedlings aren't large enough to begin using
water at any significant rate.
--
Kay
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| Judith in France 2008-03-16, 5:25 pm |
| On Mar 16, 8:56 pm, K <k...@scarboro.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Rosie <no...@privacy.net> writes
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> I try to sow seeds just before a holiday. They'll take 1-2 weeks to
> germinate, and if they are in a sealed container (a propagator with the
> lid closed, or a big clear plastic bag enclosing the seed tray) the soil
> will not dry out, and the seedlings aren't large enough to begin using
> water at any significant rate.
> --
> Kay
Good tip Kay, how are you and the boys?
Judith
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| Judith in France 2008-03-16, 5:25 pm |
| On Mar 16, 4:43 pm, Rosie <no...@privacy.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:00:59 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France wrote:
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> can you get Sungold tomato seeds in France Judith?
> --
> Don't take the wrong side of an argument
> just because your opponent has taken the right side.http://www.copelands.plus.com/val/
I was unable to post earlier, hence my email to you, but for others
here, I don't know if we can or not but I can find out. I have all my
tomatoes seeds sown on damp tissue paper, some are ready to be potted
up some have damped off so I have bought a few plug plants as well :-)
Judith
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| Peter Robinson 2008-03-16, 5:25 pm |
| judith <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> I have grown Sungold tomatoes every year for about the last ten years.
> I always bought seed from Thompson & Morgan - indeed, I was originally
> told that they were the only people you could get them from as it was
> "their" variety.
>
> I now see that this is incorrect - and you can buy from any number of
> sources - (too late from this year - already bought T&M)
>
> I have noticed that there is great variation in the prices - eg ten
> seeds for 3 pounds or thirty seeds for three pounds.
Yes, there is a huge variation, but even from a single supplier for
different varieties of the same veg. I just assumed some seeds are
genuinely more difficult/expensive to mass produce (e.g. F1 hybrids, new
varieties etc.)
> My question is : is it worth paying more for such seeds or are the
> cheaper ones fine?
Frankly I pay almost no attention to the price of a pack of seeds once
I've decided on a variety. This year I sowed the grand total of 14
tomato seeds. They seem to germinate easily enough, so I'm probably
going to end up with >10 plants. I really don't have any need (/space)
for more than about 6 plants, so I expect to be giving them away in a
couple of months.
At that rate, my one packet will take about 5 years to use up, by which
time I don't suppose the seeds will be viable any more. So it really
doesn't make any difference to me whether there were 50, 100 or 500
seeds in there in the first place.
Per seed, the price of tomato seed is utterly insignificant compared to
the cost of compost (I do use bought compost for seed sowing).
I did pause a little paying about 3 quid for only 10 sweet pepper
"Gypsy" F1 seeds. But even then they will last me two years (or more if
I manage to overwinter the plants).
Peter
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| Peter Robinson 2008-03-16, 5:25 pm |
| <judithsmith@live.co.uk> wrote:
> Earlier in the spring
> I sat down and decided what I wanted and tried to order on-line - with
> no success. I then telephoned to place my order and was told that as
> I was ordering from three different catalogues - I would have to place
> three separate orders !!!!
They do have an incredibly annoying site!
> I declined this suggestion.
I think I bought my seed potatoes from them this year, but they do seem
to be expensive for most things. I've never bought anything else from
them, and probably won't.
I mostly buy from Sutton's, partly out of habit, though I've got nothing
bad to say about them, and they seem much cheaper than T&M. I do feel
slightly miffed that their free postage offer ended though - somehow
it's a much more stressful experience feeling like you have to get
everything in one order.
Peter
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| Peter Robinson 2008-03-16, 5:25 pm |
| someone <someone@flibbernet.com> wrote:
> Tomato seeds are very hardy and
> long-lived, as are all the brassicas and squashes.
Good to know.
Sweet/chili pepper seeds? They look like tomato seeds, so hopefully the
same applies...
> Carrot and onion seeds
> are very short-lived and not worth storing from one year to the next.
Oh that's interesting! Not knowing any better, I sowed some of last
spring's carrot and onion seeds and they've come up fine. >90%
germination of the onions. "Enough" carrots, but I din't sow
individually so I've no idea.
I also sowed an impregnable (hopefully) barrier of last year's spring
onion seeds all the way around my carrot box, so I hope they come up
ok...
Peter
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| On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:56:08 +0000, K wrote:
> Rosie <notme@privacy.net> writes
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> I try to sow seeds just before a holiday. They'll take 1-2 weeks to
> germinate, and if they are in a sealed container (a propagator with the
> lid closed, or a big clear plastic bag enclosing the seed tray) the soil
> will not dry out, and the seedlings aren't large enough to begin using
> water at any significant rate.
Maybe I should try that then K thank you. Nothing ventured nothing gained
I guess
--
Give others freedom to be themselves.
Appreciate the differences between their ways and yours.
http://www.copelands.plus.com/val/
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| someone 2008-03-16, 8:25 pm |
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"Des Higgins" <dazzhiggins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 16, 4:41 am, judithsm...@live.co.uk wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:56:06 -0000, "someone" <some...@flibbernet.com>
> wrote:
>
Thanks for yours and Judith's comments about Sungold being F1 hybrids. I
stand corrected about these seeds, may even try them myself :-) But it's
still true about a lot of the others, you can save them yourself, especially
winter squash.
someone
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| someone 2008-03-16, 9:25 pm |
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"Des Higgins" <dazzhiggins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 16, 4:41 am, judithsm...@live.co.uk wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:56:06 -0000, "someone" <some...@flibbernet.com>
> wrote:
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> (Sungold are F1 hybrids and will not reproduce same next season so I
> have to buy new seeds every year)
> --
>
You are right (F1 etc.). I also find Sungold very expensive but worth
it as they are the one variety that I have grown so far that spouse
and kids agree are really really worth the effort. Other tomatoes are
nice and it is very fulfilling to grow them from seed etc. but Sungold
are magic. What annoys me about the price is not the money but the
tiny number of seeds you get in most packets leaving no room for
mistakes.
Thanks for this info, judithsmith and Des, I had forgotten about the problem
of hybridisation. Ok, then, just save seed from Cavolo Nero and Squash :-)
If I find anyone who sells Sungold seeds in a larger quantity I'll posr
here.
s.
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| JennyC 2008-03-17, 3:25 am |
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"K" <k@scarboro.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Rosie <notme@privacy.net> writes
>
> I try to sow seeds just before a holiday. They'll take 1-2 weeks to
> germinate, and if they are in a sealed container (a propagator with the
> lid closed, or a big clear plastic bag enclosing the seed tray) the soil
> will not dry out, and the seedlings aren't large enough to begin using
> water at any significant rate.
> Kay
Good idea kay!!
I was going to wait until we were back, but maybe now I'll plant before we
go :~)
Jenny
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| Martin 2008-03-26, 9:25 am |
| On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:37:49 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
<judith.lea99@googlemail.com> wrote:
>On Mar 16, 10:27 am, Rosie <no...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>Why not wait until you are in Italy, you will eat so many tomatoes and
>love them especially with olive oil and Basil,
Fawlty?
--
Martin
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| Judith in France 2008-03-26, 1:25 pm |
| On Mar 26, 12:41 pm, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:37:49 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
>
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> <judith.le...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> Fawlty?
> --
>
> Martin
Martin you're back!!!!! Did you have a good time, I missed you and
your humour.
Judith
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| Martin 2008-03-26, 1:25 pm |
| On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:30:26 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
<judith.lea99@googlemail.com> wrote:
>On Mar 26, 12:41 pm, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
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>Martin you're back!!!!! Did you have a good time, I missed you and
>your humour.
We were too busy trying to survive hurricanes, fog, blizzards, torrential rain,
hail and flu to have had a really good time :o)
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Martin
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| On 26/3/08 15:44, in article 1nrku3h8s9qsgq4v2c0eumkqhdsft78rtv@4ax.com,
"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:30:26 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
> <judith.lea99@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> We were too busy trying to survive hurricanes, fog, blizzards, torrential
> rain,
> hail and flu to have had a really good time :o)
Er, where? Just so we can avoid it! ;-)
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Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| Martin 2008-03-26, 1:25 pm |
| On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:11:12 +0000, Sacha <sacha@nowhere.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>On 26/3/08 15:44, in article 1nrku3h8s9qsgq4v2c0eumkqhdsft78rtv@4ax.com,
>"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote:
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>Er, where? Just so we can avoid it! ;-)
From Whitby via Sheffield to Stoke-on-Trent and Hull to the Netherlands. :o)
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Martin
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| On 26/3/08 17:07, in article pk0lu3dr5a07n2msl8fmf6q587fbhospoe@4ax.com,
"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:11:12 +0000, Sacha <sacha@nowhere.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
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> From Whitby via Sheffield to Stoke-on-Trent and Hull to the Netherlands. :o)
Ah - not in our immediate travel plants, I must admit!
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Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| Martin 2008-03-26, 5:25 pm |
| On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:23:56 +0000, Sacha <sacha@nowhere.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>On 26/3/08 17:07, in article pk0lu3dr5a07n2msl8fmf6q587fbhospoe@4ax.com,
>"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote:
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>Ah - not in our immediate travel plants, I must admit!
I assumed that. :o)
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Martin
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| On 26/3/08 21:44, in article atglu310hsfi74ip0dqlerodfnqp0vet95@4ax.com,
"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:23:56 +0000, Sacha <sacha@nowhere.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
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> I assumed that. :o)
Or plans, either. ;-)
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Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'
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| Martin 2008-03-27, 9:25 am |
| On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:35:26 +0000, Sacha <sacha@nowhere.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>On 26/3/08 21:44, in article atglu310hsfi74ip0dqlerodfnqp0vet95@4ax.com,
>"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote:
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>Or plans, either. ;-)
LOL I missed that.
We didn't expect or plan for either of them to settle in Sheffield or near
Stoke-on-Trent :o)
My only previous visit to S-on-T, in the 1970s, gave me the impression that it
was the second most awful town on earth, Charleroi being number one.
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Martin
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