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| geicko 2005-11-14, 9:21 am |
| Hello all !
We bought this great house last summer and have been experiencing
sewage odors in the 2nd floor bathroom. Looking around the web, I've
came to figure out this could be a venting problem, but would like
advises before we try to climb on the roof (pretty high and pretty
steep !).
The house is on a sceptic system, which is about 5 years old, and the
tank was services just before we moved in. There are 2 bathrooms: one
on the main floor - no problem - and one on the second floor, where we
experience odors. The second floor bath is in an addition to the house,
which is 5 years old. Odors come from the old clawfoot tub drain. It
doesn't smell constantly, just sometimes, and only after we use either
the toilet or the shower. I've found that running water for a few
minutes in the tub after a shower generally prevent the odor from
happening... but I hate to have to waste water this way! Finally, when
we flush the toilet, we can hear guggling sounds in the bath drain...
Since I read similar stories talking about roof vent, I went outside to
check if there was anything on the roof looking like a drain. I didn't
see anything on top of the main floor bath - which is in the
single-story part of the house; no odor problem there, but did see
someting coming up the second floor bathroom. It is located close to
the shower, while the bath is at the other end of the bathroom. Is this
a venting pipe ? Please take a look at this photo :
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/58...584copie9pj.jpg
Many thanks for your help !
Geicko
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| Mike Grooms 2005-11-14, 7:21 pm |
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"geicko"
I'm afraid you'll probably need professional help on this one. The
plumber will have to figure out if the toilet is sucking the tub trap dry,
or if it's actually forcing air back through it, into the bathroom. It
probably is a venting problem of some sort, but the problem might be
something like the individual vent for the tub itself being obstructed. It
could also well be the that claw foot bathtub (which I love for the
comfortable feeling!) isn't vented at all.
I'll bet you might have to tear apart the ceiling under the tub and do
some repiping. Cross your fingers.
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| Ned Flanders 2005-11-14, 8:21 pm |
| that vent pipe is too short also.
"Mike Grooms" <ironmike@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:428c6$437913e5$d8c48a3f$19863@FUSE.NET...
>
> "geicko"
>
> I'm afraid you'll probably need professional help on this one. The
> plumber will have to figure out if the toilet is sucking the tub trap dry,
> or if it's actually forcing air back through it, into the bathroom. It
> probably is a venting problem of some sort, but the problem might be
> something like the individual vent for the tub itself being obstructed.
> It
> could also well be the that claw foot bathtub (which I love for the
> comfortable feeling!) isn't vented at all.
>
> I'll bet you might have to tear apart the ceiling under the tub and do
> some repiping. Cross your fingers.
>
>
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| Hello Geicko,
Before calling a plumber to solve the sewage odor coming from the bath
room, try this. Remove the drain cover to the tub/shower and see if
there is any hair & other foreign material in the P-trap. If you find
hair, clean out the P-trap and then use a small snake to clean out the
pipe. After that, pour about 1 cup of bleach down the drain and let
stand over night. Hopefully this will solve your problem.
You may want to try the same thing on the sink as well. An accumulation
of hair will cause a sewage odor as it decomposes. I had the same
problem and it stopped once I cleaned out the shower drain.
Hope this works for you!!!
geicko wrote:
> Hello all !
>
> We bought this great house last summer and have been experiencing
> sewage odors in the 2nd floor bathroom. Looking around the web, I've
> came to figure out this could be a venting problem, but would like
> advises before we try to climb on the roof (pretty high and pretty
> steep !).
>
> The house is on a sceptic system, which is about 5 years old, and the
> tank was services just before we moved in. There are 2 bathrooms: one
> on the main floor - no problem - and one on the second floor, where we
> experience odors. The second floor bath is in an addition to the house,
> which is 5 years old. Odors come from the old clawfoot tub drain. It
> doesn't smell constantly, just sometimes, and only after we use either
> the toilet or the shower. I've found that running water for a few
> minutes in the tub after a shower generally prevent the odor from
> happening... but I hate to have to waste water this way! Finally, when
> we flush the toilet, we can hear guggling sounds in the bath drain...
>
> Since I read similar stories talking about roof vent, I went outside to
> check if there was anything on the roof looking like a drain. I didn't
> see anything on top of the main floor bath - which is in the
> single-story part of the house; no odor problem there, but did see
> someting coming up the second floor bathroom. It is located close to
> the shower, while the bath is at the other end of the bathroom. Is this
> a venting pipe ? Please take a look at this photo :
> http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/58...584copie9pj.jpg
>
> Many thanks for your help !
>
> Geicko
>
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| Bob Wheatley 2005-11-18, 1:21 am |
| "John" <glass_cut_r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Drcff.28303$jN6.18370@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Hello Geicko,
>
> Before calling a plumber to solve the sewage odor coming from the bath
> room, try this. Remove the drain cover to the tub/shower and see if there
> is any hair & other foreign material in the P-trap. If you find hair,
> clean out the P-trap and then use a small snake to clean out the pipe.
> After that, pour about 1 cup of bleach down the drain and let stand over
> night. Hopefully this will solve your problem.
>
> You may want to try the same thing on the sink as well. An accumulation of
> hair will cause a sewage odor as it decomposes. I had the same problem
> and it stopped once I cleaned out the shower drain.
>
> Hope this works for you!!!
>
Um.... Just because you're name is "John" doesn't mean you know "crap" about
them.
Heh heh, I "crack" myself up.:> )
A hog smells when it decomposes. If your hair smells that bad when it is in
the shower drain I highly recommend either washing it more often or
immediately seeking the services of an exorcist.
Please leave the advice to real professionals, will ya'?
Bob Wheatley
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| Red Jacket The Laughing Indian ! 2005-11-18, 5:21 am |
| WAIT !
Be careful you did not also use Draino before.
I seen a blown up toilet from a guy who could not
unplug it, so he axed people what to put in it.
He ran out of his house when the stuff in the toilet began
to boil.
He had Draino, Clorox and then tried Sulfuric Acid from
a car battery and who knows what else in it.
I think you can call it a shitty IED and the use of Poison
Gas.
Acid and Clorox makes Chlorine Gas and water. What
made it explode is unknown to me. He told me when that funny
noise he heard he looked in and slammed the seat cover down.
He put something on it then ran for his life. He also was crying
and his lungs were burned. Chlorine gas hits the water in your
lungs and eyes, this makes Hydrochloric acid. Its what killed
a few thousand troops in WW I. It will blind you for life too.
Stick to only one chemical, but best is like John said, take
a look in the P trap , there is no need to make a WMD in
a residential hood.
"John" <glass_cut_r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Drcff.28303$jN6.18370@tornado.texas.rr.com...[color=darkred]
> Hello Geicko,
>
> Before calling a plumber to solve the sewage odor coming from the bath
> room, try this. Remove the drain cover to the tub/shower and see if
> there is any hair & other foreign material in the P-trap. If you find
> hair, clean out the P-trap and then use a small snake to clean out the
> pipe. After that, pour about 1 cup of bleach down the drain and let
> stand over night. Hopefully this will solve your problem.
>
> You may want to try the same thing on the sink as well. An accumulation
> of hair will cause a sewage odor as it decomposes. I had the same
> problem and it stopped once I cleaned out the shower drain.
>
> Hope this works for you!!!
>
>
>
>
> geicko wrote:
>
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| Bob Wheatley wrote:
> "John" <glass_cut_r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Drcff.28303$jN6.18370@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>
>
>
>
> Um.... Just because you're name is "John" doesn't mean you know "crap" about
> them.
> Heh heh, I "crack" myself up.:> )
>
> A hog smells when it decomposes. If your hair smells that bad when it is in
> the shower drain I highly recommend either washing it more often or
> immediately seeking the services of an exorcist.
> Please leave the advice to real professionals, will ya'?
>
>
>
>
> Bob Wheatley
>
>
>
Bob,
What hurt did my suggestion do? Absolutely none other than challenge
your plumbing ability. Read the posts in the web link below and you'll
find I know more "Crap" than you and I'm not even a plumber. About the
only things you know as a plumber are the following:
1. Fridays are payday
2. Water doesn't flow up hill
3. Don't bite finger nails
Outside of this, you don't know diddly squat.
http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/forum/archive/t-6319.html
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| Mike Grooms 2005-11-18, 11:21 pm |
|
"John"
> Bob,
>
> What hurt did my suggestion do? Absolutely none other than challenge
> your plumbing ability. Read the posts in the web link below and you'll
> find I know more "Crap" than you and I'm not even a plumber.
Your suggestion did no harm. I could have suggested that he try red food
coloring in the drain. That would have done no harm either. I realize you
think that being a non-plumber somehow qualifies you to diagnose these
situations. And I also realize that you're literate enough to somehow surf
to a DIYer website and find useless suggestions by other non-plumbers. And
I also realize that you think that if you insult experts and boast of your
brainpower, that somehow you think you'll win an argument, but it just all
misses the mark.
I will try to tell you why you're wrong. I do this so that Bob W.
doesn't have to bother. He's probably already feeling weary by writing you
before.
The big clue was that the guy heard gurgling from the tub when the toilet
was flushed. This alone, is enough to eliminate your "look under the cover
and pour a little bleach" solution. Even an idiot would realize that the
problem lies past the tub trap. It must be either a venting problem, or a
drainage one. Exactly how to you take a tub trap apart when it's on the
second floor? Do you have magic eyes? Are you assuming it's a drum trap
with exposed lid? Or are you just sort of ignorant?
So instead of spouting off here, why not go to the brain surgeon's
newsgroup and give your non-doctor's solution to cerebral tumors?
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| Mike Grooms wrote:
> "John"
>
>
>
>
> Your suggestion did no harm. I could have suggested that he try red food
> coloring in the drain. That would have done no harm either. I realize you
> think that being a non-plumber somehow qualifies you to diagnose these
> situations. And I also realize that you're literate enough to somehow surf
> to a DIYer website and find useless suggestions by other non-plumbers. And
> I also realize that you think that if you insult experts and boast of your
> brainpower, that somehow you think you'll win an argument, but it just all
> misses the mark.
>
> I will try to tell you why you're wrong. I do this so that Bob W.
> doesn't have to bother. He's probably already feeling weary by writing you
> before.
>
> The big clue was that the guy heard gurgling from the tub when the toilet
> was flushed. This alone, is enough to eliminate your "look under the cover
> and pour a little bleach" solution. Even an idiot would realize that the
> problem lies past the tub trap. It must be either a venting problem, or a
> drainage one. Exactly how to you take a tub trap apart when it's on the
> second floor? Do you have magic eyes? Are you assuming it's a drum trap
> with exposed lid? Or are you just sort of ignorant?
>
> So instead of spouting off here, why not go to the brain surgeon's
> newsgroup and give your non-doctor's solution to cerebral tumors?
>
>
Sit on it an rotate.
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| Red Jacket The Laughing Indian ! 2005-11-19, 4:21 am |
|
"John" <glass_cut_r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:SVuff.146$Ox.143@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Bob Wheatley wrote:
there[color=darkred]
of[color=darkred]
about[color=darkred]
in[color=darkred]
> Bob,
>
> What hurt did my suggestion do? Absolutely none other than challenge
> your plumbing ability. Read the posts in the web link below and you'll
> find I know more "Crap" than you and I'm not even a plumber. About the
> only things you know as a plumber are the following:
>
> 1. Fridays are payday
> 2. Water doesn't flow up hill
> 3. Don't bite finger nails
>
> Outside of this, you don't know diddly squat.
>
> http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/forum/archive/t-6319.html
What the fuck ? Bob is a real Plummer pal.
I don't like that 6th grade ditty that YOU think you invented.
Now say you're sorry to Bob and the Plummers here.
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| Ned Flanders 2005-11-19, 11:21 am |
| john = dick
"Red Jacket The Laughing Indian !" <RedJacketTheLaughingIndian!@yahoo.com>
wrote in message news:kpSdnZI4t836C-DenZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> WAIT !
> Be careful you did not also use Draino before.
> I seen a blown up toilet from a guy who could not
> unplug it, so he axed people what to put in it.
> He ran out of his house when the stuff in the toilet began
> to boil.
>
> He had Draino, Clorox and then tried Sulfuric Acid from
> a car battery and who knows what else in it.
> I think you can call it a shitty IED and the use of Poison
> Gas.
> Acid and Clorox makes Chlorine Gas and water. What
> made it explode is unknown to me. He told me when that funny
> noise he heard he looked in and slammed the seat cover down.
> He put something on it then ran for his life. He also was crying
> and his lungs were burned. Chlorine gas hits the water in your
> lungs and eyes, this makes Hydrochloric acid. Its what killed
> a few thousand troops in WW I. It will blind you for life too.
>
> Stick to only one chemical, but best is like John said, take
> a look in the P trap , there is no need to make a WMD in
> a residential hood.
>
> "John" <glass_cut_r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Drcff.28303$jN6.18370@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>
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| Mike Grooms 2005-11-19, 12:21 pm |
|
"John"
> Sit on it an rotate.
Wow, I am defeated. I surrender. You are my better. I obviously don't
belong on the same planet as you. Will you ever forgive me?
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| geicko 2005-11-21, 10:21 am |
| Wow... I didn't expect that kind of discussion to happen ! Beside, I'm
a French speaker, so I kind of lost the essence of some replies but the
main feeling I get is that some replies were not to bother with anyway,
right ?
So... I will try to remove the bath drain cover and clean it. The Black
& Decker Home Maintenantce guide I just got suggests 2 other recipes
for drains cleaning. Can you comment ?
1- Weekly cleaning
Pur 1/4 cup of this in each drain...
1 cup of sodium acid carbonate (grocery item)
1 cup of salt
1/4 cup cream of tartar
2- Before trying any chemical
Pour 1 cup of sodium acid carbonate plus 1 pint of vinegar in the
drain, wait for 15 minutes then pour 2-3 cups of boiling water.
Trying things progressively, I would assume recipe #3 to be the
overnight bleaching you suggest John. Makes sense ?
Also, since the problem might be the venting pipe on the roof (to check
if above doesn't work), can you confirm I can safely run water in it to
check if it is blocked ? Should I wait for spring before I do so ? I
mean, outdoor temperature is still above zero right now, but if water
does not evacuate quickly form there... I believe I mau run into
greater problems since it's going to be winter soon !
Thanks again for your help, and smile up everyone... !
Nathalie, alias Geicko ;-)
John a =E9crit :
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> Hello Geicko,
>
> Before calling a plumber to solve the sewage odor coming from the bath
> room, try this. Remove the drain cover to the tub/shower and see if
> there is any hair & other foreign material in the P-trap. If you find
> hair, clean out the P-trap and then use a small snake to clean out the
> pipe. After that, pour about 1 cup of bleach down the drain and let
> stand over night. Hopefully this will solve your problem.
>
> You may want to try the same thing on the sink as well. An accumulation
> of hair will cause a sewage odor as it decomposes. I had the same
> problem and it stopped once I cleaned out the shower drain.
>
> Hope this works for you!!!
>
>
>
>
> geicko wrote:
>
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| Bob Wheatley 2005-11-21, 10:21 am |
| "John" <glass_cut_r@yahoo.com> wrote
> What hurt did my suggestion do? >
I have been out of town for the past few days and in my absence I hope no
one was "hurt" by your ignorance. However, you can rest assured that no one
was "helped" either.
"Sewer smells eminating from traps" has absolutely nothing to do with hair
in the trap. Only a moron would think so.
Item #1 : What is a trap for?
Item #2 : How does it work?
Answer those question Mr. Moron and get back to me, will ya'?
> Absolutely none other than challenge your plumbing ability. Read the
> posts in the web link below and you'll find I know more "Crap" than you
> and I'm not even a plumber. About the only things you know as a plumber
> are the following:
>
> 1. Fridays are payday
> 2. Water doesn't flow up hill
> 3. Don't bite finger nails
>
> Outside of this, you don't know diddly squat.
>
You even fucked that up Mr DIY'er.
1. Payday is Friday (say it right)
2. Shit don't run uphill
3. The boss is a son-of-a-XXXXX.
Bob Wheatley
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| Bob Wheatley 2005-11-21, 1:21 pm |
| "geicko" <nadam@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>So... I will try to remove the bath drain cover and clean it. The Black
& Decker Home Maintenantce guide I just got suggests 2 other recipes
for drains cleaning. Can you comment ?>
Please don't waste your time with this nonsense. If drain line odors on the
fixture side of the trap "could" be a problem, then the problem "would" be
so prevalent that it would be common and world wide.
Nor do you need to climbing up on your roof. What you need is a licensed
professional to look at your situation. There are a number of things that
"could" be causing your conditions and I'll list a few and take a guess at
the most likely based on your original post.
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sewage odors in the 2nd floor bathroom. > >
First, I can only assume that you actually are smelling sewer gas.
Second, the only way sewer gas can get to you from the plumbing system is
via an opening in that otherwise sealed system.
That "opening" could be an evaporated trap due to limited use of a
particular fixture (like a clawfoot tub). If it is more than 2 or 3 weeks
between uses a trap can evaporate - depending the atmospheric humidity of
your particular area. In your case you bought the house in the summer when
there may have been an air conditioner being used and if so, it's trap and
or drain destination needs to be looked at.
The "opening" could be due to a trap this being siphoned dry because of
improper venting or a vent that is stopped up or blocked.
The "opening" could be a damaged pipe or fitting.
The "opening" could be a broken seal such as the wax ring under the toilet.
Ultimately, there's no way for a plumber to properly diagnose your plumbing
system over the internet or usenet any more that it would be for a doctor to
diagnose your personal health.
Bob Wheatley
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| geicko 2005-11-29, 5:21 pm |
| Thanks for taking time replying Bob.
I understand it's impossible to diagnose without seeing and
investigating, but just wanted to get some hints before I call a
plumber. They charge me an hour just to get here... so it easily get
pretty expensive to fix things we sometimes can do ourselves ;-)
That being said, we decided we could afford to waist some grocery
ingredients first and see what happens before we make the expensive
plumber's call. We poured the above mixture into both the bath and
shower drains. It seemed it helped ! The shower drain really reacted as
if it was blocked (we had to use a siphon) and we haven't experienced
the bad odor since. The bath though, has started to do noise again when
flushing the toilet about 2 days after we "cleaned" the drains. It's
only been a week now and since the drain noise is back, obviously, it
has not fixed the problem. But at least it looks like it minimized it.
Now I'm wondering if what we smell really is sewage... by the way,
we've only took one bath since we moved in 4 months ago.
Thanks anyway for your help.
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| Bob Wheatley 2005-11-29, 9:21 pm |
| "geicko" <nadam@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:1133298356.389998.211420@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks for taking time replying Bob.
>
> I understand it's impossible to diagnose without seeing and
> investigating, but just wanted to get some hints before I call a
> plumber. They charge me an hour just to get here... so it easily get
> pretty expensive to fix things we sometimes can do ourselves ;-)
>
> That being said, we decided we could afford to waist some grocery
> ingredients first and see what happens before we make the expensive
> plumber's call. We poured the above mixture into both the bath and
> shower drains. It seemed it helped ! The shower drain really reacted as
> if it was blocked (we had to use a siphon) and we haven't experienced
> the bad odor since.
I have not re-read the original posts but I don't recall there being an
issue with the shower in the first place. Right?
I think I remember you saying the odor came from the clawfoot tub? Right?
> The bath though, has started to do noise again when
> flushing the toilet about 2 days after we "cleaned" the drains. It's
> only been a week now and since the drain noise is back, obviously, it
> has not fixed the problem.>
As I pointed out in my previous reply "holes" do not fix themselves.:> )
I cannot tell from my monitor here in Texas where that "hole" is or what is
causing it, but you can rest assured no amount voodoo is going to fix it.
If you are "hearing" sounds from the clawfoot tub when you flush the toilet
that tells me that the tub trap is either dry or does not exist. One or the
other.
> ... by the way, we've only took one bath since we moved in 4 months ago.
>
LOL! :> )
I'm not going to touch that (or you) with a ten foot pole.
Bob Wheatley
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| Red Jacket 2005-12-01, 5:21 pm |
| Lordy, I was reading that ' John ' guys posts and
in the last one they sell a Charcoal filter ?!
Now that's Voodoo.
Its in his url.
"Bob Wheatley" <xmaster.dancer@directway.com> wrote in message
news:11opu6tja6mae8b@corp.supernews.com...
> "geicko" <nadam@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:1133298356.389998.211420@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> I have not re-read the original posts but I don't recall there being an
> issue with the shower in the first place. Right?
> I think I remember you saying the odor came from the clawfoot tub? Right?
>
>
>
>
> As I pointed out in my previous reply "holes" do not fix themselves.:> )
> I cannot tell from my monitor here in Texas where that "hole" is or what
is
> causing it, but you can rest assured no amount voodoo is going to fix it.
> If you are "hearing" sounds from the clawfoot tub when you flush the
toilet
> that tells me that the tub trap is either dry or does not exist. One or
the
> other.
>
>
>
>
> LOL! :> )
> I'm not going to touch that (or you) with a ten foot pole.
>
>
> Bob Wheatley
>
>
>
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| Bob Wheatley 2005-12-01, 10:21 pm |
| "Red Jacket" <Red Jacket@yahoo.com> wrote
> Lordy, I was reading that ' John ' guys posts and
> in the last one they sell a Charcoal filter ?!
> Now that's Voodoo.
>
> Its in his url.
>
Hmm.... I meant to ask him if there's any special baking soda mixtures that
relieve a hangover.:> )
Bob Wheatley
| |
|
| My url???? Think again. Only charcoal filter I know of is for your
cat's litter box.
Red Jacket wrote:
> Lordy, I was reading that ' John ' guys posts and
> in the last one they sell a Charcoal filter ?!
> Now that's Voodoo.
>
> Its in his url.
>
>
> "Bob Wheatley" <xmaster.dancer@directway.com> wrote in message
> news:11opu6tja6mae8b@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> is
>
>
> toilet
>
>
> the
>
>
>
>
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| Andrew 2005-12-05, 10:21 pm |
| Why even bother? You walked into this one... Hair? it decomposes and stinks?
makes gas? Hair might cause capillary attraction... you know like when you
want to water the flowers while your away, with a string and a bucket of
water... Pure bleach? for a septic system... Sure kill off all the bacteria
that cause the smell, that will do it, just call the guys who come and pump
out septic tanks to clean up the crap that just sits there...(1/2 a gallon
per trap)...(your url).... By the way John it's ....Shit goes
downhill....Payday's on Thursday.....Hot's on the Left, cold's on the
right...And your momma told you not to bite your nails...not the
plumber..Your not the cat's XXX...
Andrew
"John" <waterdontrunuphill@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:wz5lf.31507$%i.27536@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> My url???? Think again. Only charcoal filter I know of is for your cat's
> litter box.
>
| |
|
| Hey Andy, you got any more axioms...or do you know what that means?
Andrew wrote:
> Why even bother? You walked into this one... Hair? it decomposes and stinks?
> makes gas? Hair might cause capillary attraction... you know like when you
> want to water the flowers while your away, with a string and a bucket of
> water... Pure bleach? for a septic system... Sure kill off all the bacteria
> that cause the smell, that will do it, just call the guys who come and pump
> out septic tanks to clean up the crap that just sits there...(1/2 a gallon
> per trap)...(your url).... By the way John it's ....Shit goes
> downhill....Payday's on Thursday.....Hot's on the Left, cold's on the
> right...And your momma told you not to bite your nails...not the
> plumber..Your not the cat's XXX...
> Andrew
> "John" <waterdontrunuphill@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Andrew 2005-12-06, 6:21 pm |
| Hey John, I geuss with all your smarts God left you with no class, or the
abillity to be humble...You must be lacking somthing in life for you to keep
going on about how smart you are... You got pissy at some real plumbing
professionals, and by saying your smarter than everyone else dosen't make
you smart it makes you look like a wanker...Your suggestion of pulling out
hair and pouring beach down some drains may have worked for you, but the
original post suggested a venting problem.. Hence the smell goes away after
he ran the bathtub, (trap being primed again/until it was siphoned or blown
out again after the toilet was flushed). Use all the convoluted language you
want...If I don't know it I'll just look it up....
Andrew
"John" <glass_cut_r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hey Andy, you got any more axioms...or do you know what that means?
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| Ned Flanders 2005-12-06, 11:21 pm |
| he is a typical liberial
netscape dooshe bag
"Andrew" <nospamcrzyfox@sympatico.ca##> wrote in message
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> Hey John, I geuss with all your smarts God left you with no class, or the
> abillity to be humble...You must be lacking somthing in life for you to
> keep going on about how smart you are... You got pissy at some real
> plumbing professionals, and by saying your smarter than everyone else
> dosen't make you smart it makes you look like a wanker...Your suggestion
> of pulling out hair and pouring beach down some drains may have worked for
> you, but the original post suggested a venting problem.. Hence the smell
> goes away after he ran the bathtub, (trap being primed again/until it was
> siphoned or blown out again after the toilet was flushed). Use all the
> convoluted language you want...If I don't know it I'll just look it up....
> Andrew
> "John" <glass_cut_r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Andrew wrote:
> Hey John, I geuss with all your smarts God left you with no class, or the
> abillity to be humble...You must be lacking somthing in life for you to keep
> going on about how smart you are... You got pissy at some real plumbing
> professionals, and by saying your smarter than everyone else dosen't make
> you smart it makes you look like a wanker...Your suggestion of pulling out
> hair and pouring beach down some drains may have worked for you, but the
> original post suggested a venting problem.. Hence the smell goes away after
> he ran the bathtub, (trap being primed again/until it was siphoned or blown
> out again after the toilet was flushed). Use all the convoluted language you
> want...If I don't know it I'll just look it up....
> Andrew
> "John" <glass_cut_r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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First of all what I posted was a suggestion. Never claimed to be a
plumber and prefaced things by saying "Before calling a plumber you may
want to try......" My suggestion happened to work for me and never meant
any harm. But you and a couple of others chose to read between the
lines and then say I don't know "Crap" when all my intention was to help
using my own experience. You and others chose to overlook that aspect
and quite obviously never understood that someone was trying to help
with good intentions. It's correct I don't know crap about plumbing.
But, apparently the group of you felt threatened in some way by my
intruding in "your" news forum. If Bob's first response to my initial
posting had a more civil tone to it, I never would have responded in the
way I did in subsequent postings. By constructively pointing out where I
was wrong, it could have been used as a teaching tool instead of
throwing out the initial insult. I would have accepted the constructive
criticism positively and learned something.
I don't expect you to understand my point of view. Nor do I really
care. In the laws of physics, for every action there is always a
reaction. The same goes for human behavior and each of you failed to
see this; and still do. My responses were reactions, though a little
childish in nature, were reactions to another. Do you understand what I
mean (no insult intended here)? It's just a rhetorical question. Just
remember who got "pissy" first. Have a good day!
John
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| Ned,
If you're going insult me, then at least spell correctly. It's not
"dooshe bag". The correct spelling is "douche bag".
Ned Flanders wrote:
> he is a typical liberial
> netscape dooshe bag
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> "Andrew" <nospamcrzyfox@sympatico.ca##> wrote in message
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| Mike Grooms 2005-12-07, 1:21 pm |
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"John"
I'm afraid you don't understand the delight we have when someone like you
offers advice. I hope you caught the irony...you don't know "crap" about
plumbing, but you offered advice based on your experience (ignorance).
Would you do the same if medical doctors were discussing a diagnosis?
Would you do the same if computer geeks were trying to help a newbie? The
real fault is yours. You should have just taken your lumps and apologized.
We are totally innocent.
And, BTW, as I remember it, you insulted Bob W. once he gently tried to
correct your thinking. Around here, that's the same as a nun trying to kick
the Pope in the balls.
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| Mike Grooms wrote:
> "John"
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> I'm afraid you don't understand the delight we have when someone like you
> offers advice. I hope you caught the irony...you don't know "crap" about
> plumbing, but you offered advice based on your experience (ignorance).
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> Would you do the same if medical doctors were discussing a diagnosis?
> Would you do the same if computer geeks were trying to help a newbie? The
> real fault is yours. You should have just taken your lumps and apologized.
> We are totally innocent.
>
> And, BTW, as I remember it, you insulted Bob W. once he gently tried to
> correct your thinking. Around here, that's the same as a nun trying to kick
> the Pope in the balls.
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So be it, I guess you'll have to take the kick to the balls.
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| Ned Flanders 2005-12-08, 9:21 pm |
| i stand by my spelling coont head
"John" <waterdontflowuphill@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Mike Grooms wrote:
> So be it, I guess you'll have to take the kick to the balls.
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| Bob Wheatley 2005-12-14, 2:21 am |
| "John" <waterdontflowuphill@yahoo.com> wrote
> But, apparently the group of you felt threatened in some way by my
> intruding in "your" news forum.>
Um yeah, we feel "threatened" by a moron.
Did I spell that right? You would be the expert in that department.
> If Bob's first response to my initial posting had a more civil tone to it,
> I never would have responded in the way I did in subsequent postings. By
> constructively pointing out where I was wrong, it could have been used as
> a teaching tool instead of throwing out the initial insult. I would have
> accepted the constructive criticism positively and learned something.
>
Puhleeeeese, you whining pussy.......
I've been out of town for the past couple of weeks and you are still crying
about smiley faces and jokes?
Re-read my intial response until your thickened skull "gets it".
You are an amateur, an idiot, a blowhard who thinks he knows something while
those that actually do laugh at your retarded XXX.
You can pour bleach until your fingers turn white and you will still be
WRONG!
Period.
> I don't expect you to understand my point of view. Nor do I really care.
> In the laws of physics, for every action there is always a reaction. The
> same goes for human behavior and each of you failed to see this; and still
> do. My responses were reactions, though a little childish in nature, were
> reactions to another. Do you understand what I mean (no insult intended
> here)? It's just a rhetorical question. Just remember who got "pissy"
> first. Have a good day!
>
> John
John,
I've told you this before and I'll say it again.
Leave the plumbing advice to the professionals, will ya'?
Bob Wheatley
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| Merry Christmas Pecker Head! Hope you get a spell checker for
Christmas. You need it. Get a real job.
Bob Wheatley wrote:
> "John" <waterdontflowuphill@yahoo.com> wrote
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> Um yeah, we feel "threatened" by a moron.
> Did I spell that right? You would be the expert in that department.
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> Puhleeeeese, you whining pussy.......
> I've been out of town for the past couple of weeks and you are still crying
> about smiley faces and jokes?
> Re-read my intial response until your thickened skull "gets it".
> You are an amateur, an idiot, a blowhard who thinks he knows something while
> those that actually do laugh at your retarded XXX.
> You can pour bleach until your fingers turn white and you will still be
> WRONG!
> Period.
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> John,
> I've told you this before and I'll say it again.
> Leave the plumbing advice to the professionals, will ya'?
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> Bob Wheatley
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| Red Jacket 2005-12-18, 6:21 am |
| Oh noooooo another insult !
John L something ? Lynd Lund ......?
What's your problem ? Some dirty plummer
send your wife or boyfriend back home to you ?
When did you stop being a religious fruitcake XXXXXXX ?
HA !
"John" <waterdontflowuphill@plumberssuck.com> wrote in message
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> Merry Christmas Pecker Head! Hope you get a spell checker for
> Christmas. You need it. Get a real job.
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| Red Jacket 2005-12-19, 3:21 pm |
| Bob, I forgot all about his XXXXXXX. He was here years ago
with some crazy religious shit.
Hot got on his case.
"Red Jacket" <Red Jackcet@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Oh noooooo another insult !
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> John L something ? Lynd Lund ......?
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> What's your problem ? Some dirty plummer
> send your wife or boyfriend back home to you ?
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> When did you stop being a religious fruitcake XXXXXXX ?
> HA !
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> "John" <waterdontflowuphill@plumberssuck.com> wrote in message
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| Bob Wheatley 2005-12-20, 1:21 am |
| "Red Jacket" <Red Jacket@yahoo.com> wrote
> Bob, I forgot all about his XXXXXXX. He was here years ago
> with some crazy religious shit.
> Hot got on his case.
>
Ooohhhh....I see.......
He's got a tiny pecker pecker syndrome......
He can't fuck anybody for real, so he just "fucks" with everbody.:> )
Bob Wheatley
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| Red Jacket 2005-12-20, 9:21 am |
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"Bob Wheatley" <xmaster.dancer@directway.com> wrote in message
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> "Red Jacket" <Red Jacket@yahoo.com> wrote
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> Ooohhhh....I see.......
> He's got a tiny pecker pecker syndrome......
> He can't fuck anybody for real, so he just "fucks" with everbody.:> )
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> Bob Wheatley
Where did XXXXXXX pop out of ? Some DIY news group ?
John Lund, I think that was his name.
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