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| mlane@idirect.com 2005-06-16, 2:27 pm |
| I live in a highrise condo. I have had a few toilet backups which
clear after a few plunges with the toilet plunger,on
some occasions it has taken more than a few plunges to clear. On one
occasion I have had a serious overflow
The property management have removed the toilet and used a snake to
attempt to fix the problem, to no avail.
I still am getting toilet backups.
Management removed a "Y" section of pipe which takes the waste from my
apartment to the main stack, (pipe).
The plumber showed this "Y" section to me and said " you can see it is
clear".
There was a certain amount of crud buildup insid the walls of the "Y"
section.
The plumber removed a section of wall from my kitchen and cut a
section of pipe from the vent pipe to check for blockages.
The vent pipe was clear.
The building I live in is 36 years old.
I live on the 17th floor of a 23 storey 300 unit apartment building.
The property manager is trying to tell me the problem is mine!
Q: Is there a way of calculating the percentage of restriction of
water/waste flow through a pipe of a given inside diameter, with a
given amount of scale/crud/dirt buildup on the inside walls of the
pipe.
Any help on this matter.(No Pun Intended), would be greatly
appreciated.
Please reply to group or directly to
mlane@idirect.com
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| llump41 2005-06-16, 2:27 pm |
| I agree with your property manager. if you can plunge the toilet clear, then
the blockage most likely is in the toilet. Try a better brand of toilet.
<mlane@idirect.com> wrote in message
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quote:
>I live in a highrise condo. I have had a few toilet backups which
> clear after a few plunges with the toilet plunger,on
> some occasions it has taken more than a few plunges to clear. On one
> occasion I have had a serious overflow
> The property management have removed the toilet and used a snake to
> attempt to fix the problem, to no avail.
> I still am getting toilet backups.
> Management removed a "Y" section of pipe which takes the waste from my
> apartment to the main stack, (pipe).
> The plumber showed this "Y" section to me and said " you can see it is
> clear".
> There was a certain amount of crud buildup insid the walls of the "Y"
> section.
> The plumber removed a section of wall from my kitchen and cut a
> section of pipe from the vent pipe to check for blockages.
> The vent pipe was clear.
> The building I live in is 36 years old.
> I live on the 17th floor of a 23 storey 300 unit apartment building.
> The property manager is trying to tell me the problem is mine!
> Q: Is there a way of calculating the percentage of restriction of
> water/waste flow through a pipe of a given inside diameter, with a
> given amount of scale/crud/dirt buildup on the inside walls of the
> pipe.
> Any help on this matter.(No Pun Intended), would be greatly
> appreciated.
> Please reply to group or directly to
> mlane@idirect.com
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| Blackbeard 2005-06-16, 2:27 pm |
| We either the toilet isn't vented properly and has always given
problems or the problem is being caused by a cheap-XXX toilet. Dump a
full 5-gallon bucket down that toilet. Is should flow and flow right
out easily (no backup...no partial backup). Just whoosh and gone.
Use LOTS of water. We're deliberately trying to overload. Regardless,
it should not back up at all. If it does, call your plumber back to
confirm that the place is properly vented.
Any chance you hear a gurgling sound from your lavatory sink or toilet
when you flush? That would also indicate a venting issue.
If you're not sure, you can always call the local plumbing inspector
out there to advise you.
And another question...(and you'll think I'm being a smartass for
asking). First, is the toilet being used for something other than
fecal and liquid waste? Second, are you shitting bricks (literally,
some people suffer from very hard, solid feces). People who shit
bricks also run into recurring toilet problems that nobody can
troubleshoot. (if this is the case, toss the plunger and go buy
yourself a closet auger). Third - did you ever replace the toilet?
(and did you replace it with a good one)? Don't try to save a few
bucks by purchasing a crap $40 bargain toilet from Lowes.
Just some thoughts. If you eat smaller meals spread throughout the day
instead of larger meals, you can reduce your turd size by almost 40%.
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| number 9 2005-06-16, 2:27 pm |
| I have had lotsa "burping", too.
Sometimes the "brick" flushes right
down the toilet &-) - other times
small stuff doesn't...I think it is related
to the venting, based on other posts here.
How do I clear that?
It is a fairly new Eljer if that matters.
Harald.
"Blackbeard" <Blackbeard_The_Great@Lycos.com> wrote in message
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quote:
> We either the toilet isn't vented properly and has always given
> problems or the problem is being caused by a cheap-XXX toilet. Dump a
> full 5-gallon bucket down that toilet. Is should flow and flow right
> out easily (no backup...no partial backup). Just whoosh and gone.
>
> Use LOTS of water. We're deliberately trying to overload. Regardless,
> it should not back up at all. If it does, call your plumber back to
> confirm that the place is properly vented.
>
> Any chance you hear a gurgling sound from your lavatory sink or toilet
> when you flush? That would also indicate a venting issue.
>
> If you're not sure, you can always call the local plumbing inspector
> out there to advise you.
>
> And another question...(and you'll think I'm being a smartass for
> asking). First, is the toilet being used for something other than
> fecal and liquid waste? Second, are you shitting bricks (literally,
> some people suffer from very hard, solid feces). People who shit
> bricks also run into recurring toilet problems that nobody can
> troubleshoot. (if this is the case, toss the plunger and go buy
> yourself a closet auger). Third - did you ever replace the toilet?
> (and did you replace it with a good one)? Don't try to save a few
> bucks by purchasing a crap $40 bargain toilet from Lowes.
>
> Just some thoughts. If you eat smaller meals spread throughout the day
> instead of larger meals, you can reduce your turd size by almost 40%.
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