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Author Need to train up some electrical noobs
Z

2006-05-13, 11:21 am

I have in my team (facilities management) a couple of people who have no
electrical or craft background.
I want to put together a curriculum to pass on some electrical theory so
they can handle repair of electrical faults. Passing on the craft skills
is an easier matter but they will need some electrical knowledge too.

I'm not an educator so where do I start in teaching them the
fundamentals of electrical craft theory.

Any ideas where to start please?
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Palindr☻me

2006-05-13, 11:21 am

Z wrote:
> I have in my team (facilities management) a couple of people who have no
> electrical or craft background.
> I want to put together a curriculum to pass on some electrical theory so
> they can handle repair of electrical faults. Passing on the craft skills
> is an easier matter but they will need some electrical knowledge too.
>
> I'm not an educator so where do I start in teaching them the
> fundamentals of electrical craft theory.
>
> Any ideas where to start please?


The Head of Faculty at the local CofFE.

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Sue
Long Ranger

2006-05-13, 2:21 pm


"Z" <Z@imaris.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OsN351I3g8YEFwp3@imaris.demon.co.uk...
>I have in my team (facilities management) a couple of people who have no
>electrical or craft background.
> I want to put together a curriculum to pass on some electrical theory so
> they can handle repair of electrical faults. Passing on the craft skills
> is an easier matter but they will need some electrical knowledge too.
>
> I'm not an educator so where do I start in teaching them the fundamentals
> of electrical craft theory.
>
> Any ideas where to start please?
> --
> Z
> Remove all Zeds in e-mail address to reply.


There are a bunch of beginner texts out there, that start at electron
theory, and work through simple circuitry, and basic theory. Using one is a
way to have a ready-made classroom format. The one I picked up thirty years
ago, and still have on the shelf, is "Electricty One-Seven", by edited by
Harry Mileaf, published by Hayden Books. In my experience, using a hydraulic
analogy to describe basic electrical phenomena is extremely useful, as long
as the student understands that it is just analogy.


electrician@electrician2.com

2006-05-14, 1:21 am

"electrical craft theory?" Try an 8,000 hour IBEW apprenticeship
program. That might get them to journeyman level. You sound pretty
naive to me. May I suggest you start by reviewing some of my material
at http://www.electrician2.com (formerly electrician.com). I have 43
years of experience and am still learning. You don't learn this stuff
over night or in 1 year, 2 years or 4 years. It takes about 5 years to
get started.

Tim Dunne

2006-05-14, 8:21 am

"Z" <Z@imaris.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OsN351I3g8YEFwp3@imaris.demon.co.uk

> I want to put together a curriculum to pass on some electrical theory
> so they can handle repair of electrical faults.


8<...

> Any ideas where to start please?


Yes. Hire qualified electricians you weasily cheapskate, and don't dice with
others' safety.

HTH, HAND

Tim

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Andrew Gabriel

2006-05-15, 6:21 pm

In article <OsN351I3g8YEFwp3@imaris.demon.co.uk>,
Z <Z@imaris.demon.co.uk> writes:
> I have in my team (facilities management) a couple of people who have no
> electrical or craft background.
> I want to put together a curriculum to pass on some electrical theory so
> they can handle repair of electrical faults. Passing on the craft skills
> is an easier matter but they will need some electrical knowledge too.
>
> I'm not an educator so where do I start in teaching them the
> fundamentals of electrical craft theory.
>
> Any ideas where to start please?


Look for your local technical college which does the City & Guilds
electrical courses. A good simple starting point would be the PAT
testing courses and exams, which take 2 days, and are intended to
be achievable by non-electricians. The prerequisits would be the
ability to wire a plug correctly, and knowing the difference
between megohms and milliohms. After that, you could move on to
the 16th edition regs, and possibly even Part 1 -- talk this
through with the college. These can often be done as either day
release, or night classes.

However, note that if they really have no electrical background,
they won't get very far without working under the supervision of
someone who has, and doing that only in the classroom is going
to be rather unsatisfactory, long winded, and expensive.

--
Andrew Gabriel
Igor The Terrible

2006-05-17, 12:21 am

To hell with colleges. If you send them there, send them there for
their math and physics to compliment and fortify their apprenticeship
training. Colleges are better suited for teaching electrical theory at
engineering levels where students can some get hands on in a lab. So
far as wiring, bending EMT, troubleshooting, mods, etc... the only
practical and realistic place to learn the trade is on the job in the
real world...period.

Paul Hovnanian P.E.

2006-05-17, 1:21 am

Z wrote:
>
> I have in my team (facilities management) a couple of people who have no
> electrical or craft background.
> I want to put together a curriculum to pass on some electrical theory so
> they can handle repair of electrical faults.


Repair faults WHERE? What are the licensing and certification
requirements for such work?

> Passing on the craft skills
> is an easier matter but they will need some electrical knowledge too.
>
> I'm not an educator so where do I start in teaching them the
> fundamentals of electrical craft theory.


There must be some trade schools over there that can offer the
curriculum needed. But first, make sure you understand what the legal
requirements are.

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JeffM

2006-05-22, 9:21 pm

>my material at http://www.electrician2.com (formerly electrician.com)
> electrician @ electrician2.com


Ah. No wonder my old bookmark didn't work.
Now I can point newbies to the cheat-sheet again.
http://www.electrician2.com/resist_calc/resist_calc.htm
(The lower right-hand button will need a massage.)

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