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Author Need one more neutral bus connection
Clocker

2006-05-25, 9:21 am

Hello-

I posted this in alt.home.repair but I thought I'd ask in a more
specific newsgroup as well..

I'm adding two double pole 20A 12-3 wire circuits to my breaker box for

my basement. Each of the two 12-3 runs is split into two 110v circuits

(alternating circuits between outlets along the run) with the neutral
for each run being shared between the two alternating circuits.

Because I have two of these runs, I have to connect two white neutral
wires to the neutral bar in my breaker box. Unfortulately, I only have

one open connection on my neutral bar left.

**Since this is my main panel for my house**** (not a sub-panel).
What do I have to do so I can get the extra neutral connection I need?
I have open neutral bar connections. Because this is my main panel
for the house, can I use one of the open connections on the ground bar
for the final neutral wire I have

And before anyone asks, no my 150AMP Siemens panel is not overloaded.

Thanks,
Kevin

Phillip Devoll

2006-05-25, 10:21 pm


"Clocker" <kevharper@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148559319.917426.267900@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hello-
>
> I posted this in alt.home.repair but I thought I'd ask in a more
> specific newsgroup as well..
>
> I'm adding two double pole 20A 12-3 wire circuits to my breaker box for
>
> my basement. Each of the two 12-3 runs is split into two 110v circuits
>
> (alternating circuits between outlets along the run) with the neutral
> for each run being shared between the two alternating circuits.
>
> Because I have two of these runs, I have to connect two white neutral
> wires to the neutral bar in my breaker box. Unfortulately, I only have
>
> one open connection on my neutral bar left.
>
> **Since this is my main panel for my house**** (not a sub-panel).
> What do I have to do so I can get the extra neutral connection I need?
> I have open neutral bar connections. Because this is my main panel
> for the house, can I use one of the open connections on the ground bar
> for the final neutral wire I have
>
> And before anyone asks, no my 150AMP Siemens panel is not overloaded.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>

I would pigy back a2 ground wire and do it that way or add another
ground/nurutal buss barr and move all the ground to it and connect it with a
piece of 4 gauge wire...



SQLit

2006-05-28, 1:21 pm


"Clocker" <kevharper@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148559319.917426.267900@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hello-
>
> I posted this in alt.home.repair but I thought I'd ask in a more
> specific newsgroup as well..
>
> I'm adding two double pole 20A 12-3 wire circuits to my breaker box for
>
> my basement. Each of the two 12-3 runs is split into two 110v circuits
>
> (alternating circuits between outlets along the run) with the neutral
> for each run being shared between the two alternating circuits.
>
> Because I have two of these runs, I have to connect two white neutral
> wires to the neutral bar in my breaker box. Unfortulately, I only have
>
> one open connection on my neutral bar left.
>
> **Since this is my main panel for my house**** (not a sub-panel).
> What do I have to do so I can get the extra neutral connection I need?
> I have open neutral bar connections. Because this is my main panel
> for the house, can I use one of the open connections on the ground bar
> for the final neutral wire I have
>
> And before anyone asks, no my 150AMP Siemens panel is not overloaded.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin


Read the panel documentation. MOST residential panels ARE rated for more
than one wire OF THE SAME SIZE under the neutral and ground bars. Check to
be sure.


Bud--

2006-05-28, 2:21 pm

SQLit wrote:

> "Clocker" <kevharper@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1148559319.917426.267900@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> Read the panel documentation. MOST residential panels ARE rated for more
> than one wire OF THE SAME SIZE under the neutral and ground bars. Check to
> be sure.
>
>


Not permitted for neutrals (408.41).

bud--
Phillip Devoll

2006-05-28, 10:21 pm


"Bud--" <remove.BudNews@isp.com> wrote in message
news:a30c2$4479d5ac$4213ea2a$21020@DIALUPUSA.NET...
> SQLit wrote:
>
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>
> Not permitted for neutrals (408.41).
>
> bud--


I agree not for nutrals but for grounds


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