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Has anyone knowledge about using an NM staple gun?
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| Gerald Newton 2007-09-28, 1:25 pm |
| I found one, the Poewerfast Strap Gun, on the Internet, but have never
seen one used. Has anyone knowledge of these or others? They are
supposed to save 30 per cent on labor for installing NM cable.
ref: http://www.web-tronics.com/powstrapguns.html
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| Michael A. Terrell 2007-09-28, 9:25 pm |
| Gerald Newton wrote:
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> I found one, the Poewerfast Strap Gun, on the Internet, but have never
> seen one used. Has anyone knowledge of these or others? They are
> supposed to save 30 per cent on labor for installing NM cable.
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> ref: http://www.web-tronics.com/powstrapguns.html
I used the Arrow T-18, T-25, T-37 and T-75 for various sized cables.
In places that plenty of room, they were very useful. Just about any
place you can hammer in a staple, you can use the guns.
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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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| Long Ranger 2007-09-29, 3:25 am |
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:46FDAC35.F2B9CCD2@earthlink.net...
> Gerald Newton wrote:
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>The Powerfast runs about 50% success on a clip of staples. Lots of jamming,
>not worth owning. I bought a second one because I thought the first was
>faulty. Nope, the second one was about the same.
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| ChairmanOfTheBored 2007-09-29, 5:25 pm |
| On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:20:00 -0700, Gerald Newton
<electrician@electrician2.com> wrote:
>I found one, the Poewerfast Strap Gun, on the Internet, but have never
>seen one used. Has anyone knowledge of these or others? They are
>supposed to save 30 per cent on labor for installing NM cable.
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>ref: http://www.web-tronics.com/powstrapguns.html
Looked to me like a mechanical stapler, not a "powered" type of any
kind, other than that you can muster yourself.
What the hell is "NM"?
Would that make your name Gerald Pneuwton?
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| Gerald Newton 2007-09-30, 3:25 am |
| On Sep 29, 10:38 am, ChairmanOfTheBored <RUBo...@crackasmile.org>
wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:20:00 -0700, Gerald Newton
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> <electric...@electrician2.com> wrote:
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> Looked to me like a mechanical stapler, not a "powered" type of any
> kind, other than that you can muster yourself.
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> What the hell is "NM"?
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> Would that make your name Gerald Pneuwton?
NM is nonmetallic cable commonly called Romex used to wire homes for
power and lighting..
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| charles 2007-09-30, 3:25 am |
| In article <1191131795.447389.180680@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
Gerald Newton <electrician@electrician2.com> wrote:
> On Sep 29, 10:38 am, ChairmanOfTheBored <RUBo...@crackasmile.org>
> wrote:
[color=darkred]
> NM is nonmetallic cable commonly called Romex used to wire homes for
> power and lighting..
Not quite. Non-metallic cable wouldn't conduct electricity. It has non-
metallic sheath.
--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"
Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11
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| Michael A. Terrell 2007-09-30, 9:25 am |
| charles wrote:
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> In article <1191131795.447389.180680@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
> Gerald Newton <electrician@electrician2.com> wrote:
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> Not quite. Non-metallic cable wouldn't conduct electricity. It has non-
> metallic sheath.
You love to show your ignorance, don't you? Prior to Romex, BX cable
or conduit was used, which was metallic.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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| charles 2007-09-30, 5:25 pm |
| In article <46FFAC95.E78B570E@earthlink.net>,
Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> charles wrote:
[color=darkred]
> You love to show your ignorance, don't you? Prior to Romex, BX cable
> or conduit was used, which was metallic.
That's the sheath. The conductor in the cable is always metallic.
BTW, this side of the pond we call it 'Hituf'.
--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"
Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11
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| ChairmanOfTheBored 2007-09-30, 5:25 pm |
| On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:03:01 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>charles wrote:
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> You love to show your ignorance, don't you? Prior to Romex, BX cable
>or conduit was used, which was metallic.
Proof of two things. You have zero sense of humor, and you are dumb as
a box of rocks.
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| Gerald Newton 2007-09-30, 9:25 pm |
| On Sep 29, 9:56 pm, Gerald Newton <electric...@electrician2.com>
wrote:
> On Sep 29, 10:38 am, ChairmanOfTheBored <RUBo...@crackasmile.org>
> wrote:
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> NM is nonmetallic cable commonly called Romex used to wire homes for
> power and lighting..
True, NM is the type of cable. The cable is named nonmetallic
sheathed cable. Most people just call it rope or Romex.
Anyway, the post is about the stapler. Do they work? Using a hammer
and nails seems old fashioned.
334.2 Definitions.
Nonmetallic-Sheathed Cable. A factory assembly of two
or more insulated conductors enclosed within an overall
nonmetallic jacket.
Type NM. Insulated conductors enclosed within an overall
nonmetallic jacket.
Type NMC. Insulated conductors enclosed within an overall,
corrosion resistant, nonmetallic jacket.
Type NMS. Insulated power or control conductors with
signaling, data, and communications conductors within an
overall nonmetallic jacket.
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| True, NM is the type of cable. The cable is named nonmetallic sheathed
cable. Most people just call it rope or Romex. Anyway, the post is about
the stapler. Do they work? Using a hammer and nails seems old fashioned.
334.2 Definitions.
Nonmetallic-Sheathed Cable. A factory assembly of two or more insulated
conductors enclosed within an overall nonmetallic jacket.
Type NM. Insulated conductors enclosed within an overall nonmetallic
jacket.
Type NMC. Insulated conductors enclosed within an overall, corrosion
resistant, nonmetallic jacket. Type NMS. Insulated power or control
conductors with signaling, data, and communications conductors within an
overall nonmetallic jacket.
Personally I like this Idea instead of the hammer in staples..I'll pick
one up when I get a chance - If it's any good it should work for both
=BD inch Armoured (BX) & or Romex (UF) Cable. we already have the small
staple size gun..having oversized staples ready to strap in a gun sounds
time saving - though I bet you'd still have to pound them in some...
The way I see it if it's for sale it has it proper use in the field -
I'll ask my supply company guy for it next time I drop in..
Thank for the Post & The Link Gerald.
Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]
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| Tom Horne 2007-10-01, 9:25 pm |
| Roy wrote:
> True, NM is the type of cable. The cable is named nonmetallic sheathed
> cable. Most people just call it rope or Romex. Anyway, the post is about
> the stapler. Do they work? Using a hammer and nails seems old fashioned.
> 334.2 Definitions.
> Nonmetallic-Sheathed Cable. A factory assembly of two or more insulated
> conductors enclosed within an overall nonmetallic jacket.
> Type NM. Insulated conductors enclosed within an overall nonmetallic
> jacket.
> Type NMC. Insulated conductors enclosed within an overall, corrosion
> resistant, nonmetallic jacket. Type NMS. Insulated power or control
> conductors with signaling, data, and communications conductors within an
> overall nonmetallic jacket.
>
> Personally I like this Idea instead of the hammer in staples..I'll pick
> one up when I get a chance - If it's any good it should work for both
> ½ inch Armoured (BX) & or Romex (UF) Cable. we already have the small
> staple size gun..having oversized staples ready to strap in a gun sounds
> time saving - though I bet you'd still have to pound them in some...
>
> The way I see it if it's for sale it has it proper use in the field -
> I'll ask my supply company guy for it next time I drop in..
>
> Thank for the Post & The Link Gerald.
>
> Roy Q.T.
> Urban Technician
> [I don't make em, I just fix em]
>
Warning! Modern type AC cable (Armor Clad) has a bonding strip inside
the armor that assures the continuity of the armor so that it conducts
well enough to serve as an Equipment Grounding Conductor (EGC). BX was
the original type of flexible cable wiring for use without additional
physical protection. It got it's name from the fact that it was
manufactured at the manufacturer's Bronx, NY, NY plant. It was labeled
BX like all of that companies other products to indicate which plant had
produced it. That original name is now used as a common name for all
armor covered cable but the cable made at the Bronx plant did not
contain a bonding strip in the armor. That makes it's armor and that of
all of it's early imitators unsuitable for use as an EGC. That is a
distinction worth maintaining because when fault currents flow through
the unbonded armor of "BX" cable the armor behaves as an impedance
instead of a conductor. The armor will sometimes get hot enough to glow
red. If you're lucky the insulation will fial between the enclosed
wires and cause a low impedance fault in the form of a short circuit
that will open the Over Current Protective Device before the heating of
the armor kindles a fire.
Romex was the brand name of a product of the Rome Wire & Cable Company
of Rome, NY. It was called Romex as a play on the common name for
Armored Cable with which it was intended to compete. As originally
constructed it also had no effective means of Equipment Grounding. As
presently produced it is type NM cable with a suffix such as "B" or "C"
that indicates the temperature rating of the enclosed conductors or the
presence of an electronic noise shield inside the jacket. NMC cable
contains conductors that are suitable for ninety degree centigrade
temperatures. NMS cable is internally shielded to reduce it's noise
effect when it is used in cable trays containing noise sensitive circuits.
Romex which is the common name for Non Metallic Sheathed Cable; Type NM;
is NOT type UF which is the type designation for Underground Feeder Cable.
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Tom Horne
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Re: Has anyone knowledge about using an NM staple gun?
Group: alt.engineering.electrical Date: Tue, Oct 2, 2007, 1:35am (EDT+4)
From: hornetd@veriqrmzon.net (Tom=A0Horne)
Roy wrote:
True, NM is the type of cable. The cable is named nonmetallic sheathed
cable. Most people just call it rope or Romex. Anyway, the post is about
the stapler. Do they work? Using a hammer and nails seems old fashioned.
334.2 Definitions.
Nonmetallic-Sheathed Cable. A factory assembly of two or more insulated
conductors enclosed within an overall nonmetallic jacket. Type NM.
Insulated conductors enclosed within an overall nonmetallic jacket.
Type NMC. Insulated conductors enclosed within an overall, corrosion
resistant, nonmetallic jacket. Type NMS. Insulated power or control
conductors with signaling, data, and communications conductors within an
overall nonmetallic jacket.
Personally I like this Idea instead of the hammer in staples..I'll pick
one up when I get a chance - If it's any good it should work for both
=BD inch Armoured (BX) & or Romex (UF) Cable. we already have the small
staple size gun..having oversized staples ready to strap in a gun sounds
time saving - though I bet you'd still have to pound them in some...
The way I see it if it's for sale it has it proper use in the field -
I'll ask my supply company guy for it next time I drop in..
Thank for the Post & The Link Gerald.
Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]
Warning! Modern type AC cable (Armor Clad) has a bonding strip inside
the armor that assures the continuity of the armor so that it conducts
well enough to serve as an Equipment Grounding Conductor (EGC). BX was
the original type of flexible cable wiring for use without additional
physical protection. It got it's name from the fact that it was
manufactured at the manufacturer's Bronx, NY, NY plant. It was labeled
BX like all of that companies other products to indicate which plant had
produced it. That original name is now used as a common name for all
armor covered cable but the cable made at the Bronx plant did not
contain a bonding strip in the armor. That makes it's armor and that of
=A0=A0=A0=A0all of it's early imitators unsuitable for use as an EGC.
That is a distinction worth maintaining because when fault currents flow
through the unbonded armor of "BX" cable the armor behaves as an
impedance instead of a conductor. The armor will sometimes get hot
enough to glow red. If you're lucky the insulation will fial between the
enclosed wires and cause a low impedance fault in the form of a short
circuit that will open the Over Current Protective Device before the
heating of the armor kindles a fire.
Romex was the brand name of a product of the Rome Wire & Cable Company
of Rome, NY. It was called Romex as a play on the common name for
Armored Cable with which it was intended to compete. As originally
constructed it also had no effective means of Equipment Grounding. As
presently produced it is type NM cable with a suffix such as "B" or "C"
that indicates the temperature rating of the enclosed conductors or the
presence of an electronic noise shield inside the jacket. NMC cable
contains conductors that are suitable for ninety degree centigrade
temperatures. NMS cable is internally shielded to reduce it's noise
effect when it is used in cable trays containing noise sensitive
circuits.
Romex which is the common name for Non Metallic Sheathed Cable; Type NM;
is NOT type UF which is the type designation for Underground Feeder
Cable.
--
Tom Horne
You are very observant, but it is basicly similar in all but the shape.,
and at some point in wood made houses you have to strap it to the beams
and walls the way out, so this Staple Gun could come in handy with all
types of cables....
what is the point you are trying to make with the above references ?
Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]
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| BTW I only wrote the last 2 paragraphs of that post - not the references
to the type & use of wire.This post is only about the staple gun.Not the
codes or use of cables.
I only stated that if is designed to work for armored cable too it would
be great...
Roy
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| ChairmanOfTheBored 2007-10-02, 9:25 am |
| On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 03:26:29 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
>Tom Horne
>
>You are very observant, but it is basicly similar in all but the shape.,
>and at some point in wood made houses you have to strap it to the beams
>and walls the way out, so this Staple Gun could come in handy with all
>types of cables....
>
>what is the point you are trying to make with the above references ?
>
>Roy Q.T.
>Urban Technician
>[I don't make em, I just fix em]
Fuck off, you retarded fuck. You don't even know how to quote and
reply to a message correctly.
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| RUBored@highoncrack.org (ChairmanOfTheBored)
Wrote: Fuck off, you retarded fuck =3D {THE PERSONAL ATTACKS}. You don't
even know how to quote and reply to a message correctly.
Having fun with your bosses computer flea brain.Who gives a fuck about
what you think is correct.
=AE}:>
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| ChairmanOfTheBored 2007-10-02, 8:25 pm |
| On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 03:35:05 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
>BTW I only wrote the last 2 paragraphs of that post - not the references
>to the type & use of wire.
No shit. But since you don't really know a damned thing about Usenet,
you kept HIS sig flag in place, making your entire post look like a sig.
Sorry, but I would have trouble even believing that you know what a sig
is as well, much less a sig flag.
>This post is only about the staple gun.Not the codes or use of cables.
>I only stated that if is designed to work for armored cable too it would
>be great...
You actually using a PC and a real Usenet client to spew your horseshit
into these groups, and perhaps even learning a little about what Usenet
is, instead of using that piece of shit WebTardTV interface and calling
this a web group is what would be great, RoyBoy. Oh... that's right...
you are only ten years old, and your mommy lets you spew utter nonsense
here to keep you from huffing gasoline with your local friends down at
the cub scout pack meet.
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Re: Has anyone knowledge about using an NM staple gun?
Group: alt.engineering.electrical Date: Tue, Oct 2, 2007, 5:02pm (EDT-3)
From: RUBored@crackasmile.org (ChairmanOfTheBored)
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 03:35:05 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
BTW I only wrote the last 2 paragraphs of that post - not the references
to the type & use of wire.
=A0=A0=A0=A0No shit. But since you don't really know a damned thing
about Usenet, you kept HIS sig flag in place, making your entire post
look like a sig.
=A0=A0=A0=A0Sorry, but I would have trouble even believing that you know
what a sig is as well, much less a sig flag.
This post is only about the staple gun.Not the codes or use of cables.
I only stated that if is designed to work for armored cable too it would
be great...
=A0=A0=A0=A0You actually using a PC and a real Usenet client to spew
your horseshit into these groups, and perhaps even learning a little
about what Usenet is, instead of using that piece of shit WebTardTV
interface and calling this a web group is what would be great, RoyBoy.
Oh... that's right... you are only ten years old, and your mommy lets
you spew utter nonsense here to keep you from huffing gasoline with your
local friends down at the cub scout pack meet.
This reply wasn't directed to you fool, so mind your own business - you
really are what you think of others.
=AE
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| ChairmanOfTheBored 2007-10-03, 3:25 am |
| On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:48:56 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
>This reply wasn't directed to you fool, so mind your own business - you
>really are what you think of others.
Fuck you, dipshit. This is USENET. There are NO private threads or
posts, you retarded fuck.
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