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Author Where to find a dedicated timer?
W. Kirk Crawford

2007-11-11, 9:25 am

Greetings,

I am looking a timer where I set the length of time, then push a button and the electric flow for that amount of time and shuts off.

I don't want timers that turn on at a set time and off at a set time. That is out of the question.

I want a timer where you set the length, then push a button. Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
time.

W. Kirk Crawford

W. Kirk Crawford

2007-11-11, 9:25 am

I need to explain more, this timer does not draw power until the button is pushed.

W. Kirk Crawford
Tularosa, New Mexico

"W. Kirk Crawford" <crawford.kirk@gmail.com> wrote in message news:953d4$47371c49$4212a498$14299@TULAROSA.NET...
> Greetings,
>
> I am looking a timer where I set the length of time, then push a button and the electric flow for that amount of time and shuts
> off.
>
> I don't want timers that turn on at a set time and off at a set time. That is out of the question.
>
> I want a timer where you set the length, then push a button. Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
> time.
>
> W. Kirk Crawford


charles

2007-11-11, 1:25 pm

In article <e7793$47371d96$4212a498$14643@TULAROSA.NET>,
W. Kirk Crawford <crawford.kirk@gmail.com> wrote:
> I need to explain more, this timer does not draw power until the button
> is pushed.


Sounds as though you need something run by clockwork ;-)


> W. Kirk Crawford
> Tularosa, New Mexico

[color=darkred]
> "W. Kirk Crawford" <crawford.kirk@gmail.com> wrote in message news:953d4$47371c49$4212a498$14299@TULAROSA.NET...

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Palindrome

2007-11-11, 1:25 pm

W. Kirk Crawford wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I am looking a timer where I set the length of time, then push a button
> and the electric flow for that amount of time and shuts off.
>
> I don't want timers that turn on at a set time and off at a set time.
> That is out of the question.
>
> I want a timer where you set the length, then push a button. Every time
> you push the button the timers is set for that length of time.


Strange to relate, I have two sat on my drawing room table as I write.

One looks like a relay but contains a synchronous motor, a gearbox and
an adjuster calibrated 0-10. Push a button and it runs for the set time
up to ten seconds and then stops.

Another is much larger and has a rotary scale going from 0-100. You turn
a knob to the desired time and, when you push a button, a relay operates
and the knob rotates back to zero, when the relay de-activates. The knob
scale actually has an outer ring that can set the time from 0-100 mS,
0-1 S, 0-10 S, 0-100 S, 0 -1000 S and 0-10000 S - by changing gearbox
ratios.

I only mention those because I am trying to find a use for them and, if
you lived anywhere near me in darkest Devon UK, you could just have come
and collected one for free.. They came out of equipment that I had
stripped down.

I was going to use the big one in a box supplying power to a socket for
my electric clothes iron - as I am for ever leaving the thing on...


However, I digress. I think the thing you need is a "darkroom timer".

--
Sue


ChairmanOfTheBored

2007-11-11, 1:25 pm

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:14:12 -0700, "W. Kirk Crawford"
<crawford.kirk@gmail.com> wrote:

>Greetings,
>
>I am looking a timer where I set the length of time, then push a button and the electric flow for that amount of time and shuts off.
>
>I don't want timers that turn on at a set time and off at a set time. That is out of the question.
>
>I want a timer where you set the length, then push a button. Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
>time.
>
>W. Kirk Crawford



This one is clock based, but you could still set it for a given span
and it would indeed work.

http://www.rewci.com/digitaltimer.html

This one does what you want, but is not automated. You have to stop
dialing at the appropriate location.

http://www.rewci.com/infd12inspwo.html
Dean Hoffman

2007-11-11, 1:25 pm

W. Kirk Crawford wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I am looking a timer where I set the length of time, then push a button
> and the electric flow for that amount of time and shuts off.
>
> I don't want timers that turn on at a set time and off at a set time.
> That is out of the question.
>
> I want a timer where you set the length, then push a button. Every time
> you push the button the timers is set for that length of time.
>
> W. Kirk Crawford


You might try looking here: > http://tinyurl.com/24aves
This timer is used in irrigation systems and might do what you want.
It takes up some space though.
This company has a bunch of timers: > http://tinyurl.com/2ge4jh
They don't sell retail but you could get an idea what's available at
least.

Dean

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gfretwell@aol.com

2007-11-11, 1:25 pm

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:14:12 -0700, "W. Kirk Crawford"
<crawford.kirk@gmail.com> wrote:

>Greetings,
>
>I am looking a timer where I set the length of time, then push a button and the electric flow for that amount of time and shuts off.
>
>I don't want timers that turn on at a set time and off at a set time. That is out of the question.
>
>I want a timer where you set the length, then push a button. Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
>time.
>
>W. Kirk Crawford


Intermatic makes one that runs about 10 minutes per switch operation.
I have one on my bathroom fan.
The other easy option is a spring would timer.
If you want to make something look at the circuits they cobble up from
a 4060 CMOS counter and a relay, solid state or mechanical.
This guy has some samples of what you can do
http://uk.geocities.com/ronj_1217/c4060s.html
ChairmanOfTheBored

2007-11-11, 1:25 pm

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:02:50 GMT, Palindrome <me9@privacy.net> wrote:

>W. Kirk Crawford wrote:
>
>Strange to relate, I have two sat on my drawing room table as I write.
>
>One looks like a relay but contains a synchronous motor, a gearbox and
>an adjuster calibrated 0-10. Push a button and it runs for the set time
>up to ten seconds and then stops.
>
>Another is much larger and has a rotary scale going from 0-100. You turn
>a knob to the desired time and, when you push a button, a relay operates
>and the knob rotates back to zero, when the relay de-activates. The knob
>scale actually has an outer ring that can set the time from 0-100 mS,
>0-1 S, 0-10 S, 0-100 S, 0 -1000 S and 0-10000 S - by changing gearbox
>ratios.
>
>I only mention those because I am trying to find a use for them and, if
>you lived anywhere near me in darkest Devon UK, you could just have come
>and collected one for free.. They came out of equipment that I had
>stripped down.
>
>I was going to use the big one in a box supplying power to a socket for
>my electric clothes iron - as I am for ever leaving the thing on...
>
>
>However, I digress. I think the thing you need is a "darkroom timer".


To make his own...

http://www3.sympatico.ca/lloyd.gord...r_using_pic.htm
ChairmanOfTheBored

2007-11-11, 1:25 pm

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:41:09 -0500, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:14:12 -0700, "W. Kirk Crawford"
><crawford.kirk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Intermatic makes one that runs about 10 minutes per switch operation.
>I have one on my bathroom fan.


The also make a 12Hr version. Light switch replacement type
configuration.

>The other easy option is a spring would timer.
>If you want to make something look at the circuits they cobble up from
>a 4060 CMOS counter and a relay, solid state or mechanical.
>This guy has some samples of what you can do
>http://uk.geocities.com/ronj_1217/c4060s.html

Tim Perry

2007-11-11, 1:25 pm


"W. Kirk Crawford" <crawford.kirk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7793$47371d96$4212a498$14643@TULAROSA.NET...
> I need to explain more, this timer does not draw power until the button is

pushed.
>
> W. Kirk Crawford
> Tularosa, New Mexico
>
> "W. Kirk Crawford" <crawford.kirk@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:953d4$47371c49$4212a498$14299@TULAROSA.NET...
and the electric flow for that amount of time and shuts[color=darkred]
That is out of the question.[color=darkred]
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>


solid state time delay relay.
http://us.digikey.com/scripts/DkSea...20delay%20relay


Stuart

2007-11-11, 5:25 pm

In article <KIFZi.479088$vo5.320042@fe04.news.easynews.com>,
Palindrome <me9@privacy.net> wrote:
> if you lived anywhere near me in darkest Devon UK


Nice!

Apart from the rain we spent a very pleasant week in Chagford earlier this
year :-)

--
Stuart Winsor

From is valid but subject to change without notice if it gets spammed.

For Barn dances and folk evenings in the Coventry and Warwickshire area
See: http://www.barndance.org.uk
Palindrome

2007-11-11, 5:25 pm

Stuart wrote:
> In article <KIFZi.479088$vo5.320042@fe04.news.easynews.com>,
> Palindrome <me9@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> Nice!
>
> Apart from the rain we spent a very pleasant week in Chagford earlier this
> year :-)
>


The big problem with Chagford is that it is a sod to get to in a bus in
mid-Summer...especially if you are the driver. Still, the look on some
people's faces when they round a corner and find a hedge-to-hedge bus
coming at them is something to treasure.

There is a little spot not too far from there that really is an almost
entirely undiscovered wonder. A public path starts by going through a
very uninspiring farmyard. A short walk later, you are beside a little
river tumbling down a hidden valley, complete with deep pool to go
swimming in. I've been going there for years and never seen a soul,
other than from the farm...

--
Sue



Roy

2007-11-11, 5:25 pm

Here the one I use - It's old school but effective.

http://www.cramer-motors.com/series78.html

Made By M.H. Rhodes Inc.

You'll have to check for a distributor in your area....

Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]

Palindrome

2007-11-11, 5:25 pm

Roy wrote:
> Here the one I use - It's old school but effective.
>
> http://www.cramer-motors.com/series78.html
>
> Made By M.H. Rhodes Inc.
>
> You'll have to check for a distributor in your area....


IIUC, those wind back to zero as they operate. Not quite what the OP
wanted, unless, like mine and many darkroom timers, it springs back to
the preset time on completion:

"Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of time. "


--
Sue


Roy

2007-11-11, 8:25 pm

From: me9@privacy.net (Palindrome)
I sent:

http://www.cramer-motors.com/series78.html Made By M.H. Rhodes Inc.
--------------------
IIUC, those wind back to zero as they operate. Not quite what the OP
wanted, unless, like mine and many darkroom timers, it springs back to
the preset time on completion:
"Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
time. "
--
Sue
IIUC, those wind back to zero as they operate. Not quite what the OP
wanted, unless, like mine and many darkroom timers, it springs back to
the preset time on completion:
"Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
time. "
--
Sue
------------------
Yours sounds more convenient., who manufactures it? This one wroks fine
you can wind it to any 0-60 min. interval, turn it back & stop it, it
doesn't take much effort to do it either.I guess it depends on what &
where you need a timed outlet.

I will eventually get a digital model if they are avaiable, Bench Type
of course.

This particular model was obtained with a Pesticide Mister I had a while
back., it conveniently mounted right on it.I keep it on my bench/work
space.

Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]

Michael A. Terrell

2007-11-11, 8:25 pm

Palindrome wrote:
>
> Stuart wrote:
>
> The big problem with Chagford is that it is a sod to get to in a bus in
> mid-Summer...especially if you are the driver. Still, the look on some
> people's faces when they round a corner and find a hedge-to-hedge bus
> coming at them is something to treasure.
>
> There is a little spot not too far from there that really is an almost
> entirely undiscovered wonder. A public path starts by going through a
> very uninspiring farmyard. A short walk later, you are beside a little
> river tumbling down a hidden valley, complete with deep pool to go
> swimming in. I've been going there for years and never seen a soul,
> other than from the farm...



Come on Sue! If you want REAL excitement in a bus, let the driver go
off the side of a mountain between Ft Greely and Fairbanks, Alaska while
the passengers scream for their lives. I missed that ride by two weeks,
in the mid '70s. Sam bus, same route, and same driver, with friends of
mine aboard. They were all SURE they were going to die.

It dropped a couple hundred feet, and was caught by a large tree. A
few ended up in the hospital, but no one died.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
ChairmanOfTheBored

2007-11-11, 8:25 pm

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:47:28 -0500, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:

>From: me9@privacy.net (Palindrome)
>I sent:
>
>http://www.cramer-motors.com/series78.html Made By M.H. Rhodes Inc.
>--------------------
>IIUC, those wind back to zero as they operate. Not quite what the OP
>wanted, unless, like mine and many darkroom timers, it springs back to
>the preset time on completion:
>"Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
>time. "
>--
>Sue
>IIUC, those wind back to zero as they operate. Not quite what the OP
>wanted, unless, like mine and many darkroom timers, it springs back to
>the preset time on completion:
>"Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
>time. "
>--
>Sue
>------------------
>Yours sounds more convenient., who manufactures it? This one wroks fine
>you can wind it to any 0-60 min. interval, turn it back & stop it, it
>doesn't take much effort to do it either.I guess it depends on what &
>where you need a timed outlet.
>
>I will eventually get a digital model if they are avaiable, Bench Type
>of course.
>
>This particular model was obtained with a Pesticide Mister I had a while
>back., it conveniently mounted right on it.I keep it on my bench/work
>space.
>
>Roy Q.T.
>Urban Technician
>[I don't make em, I just fix em]



From this post it appear that you completely missed her point. It also
looks like you didn't even read her response.

AND you STILL have the sig flag screwed up, dipshit! If you don't know
what that is after SEVERAL folks have told you about it, you don't need
to be in this forum.
Roy

2007-11-11, 8:25 pm

On the other hand - I have a Whirlpool Digital Programmable Plug-In
Lamp And Appliance Timer that you could program just about any way you
want to operate "whatever" at a certain time each day he can program &
just switch it to manual - all you have to do is hit the On/Off Button
and it'll run "whatever" is plugged for the the programmed time.

I plug my AC into this one to shorten it's on time during long hot
nights..it's curbs my electricity bills too....

The Whirlpool Corporation should still have these... I'm Out.........

Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]

UltimatePatriot

2007-11-11, 8:25 pm

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:11:38 -0500, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:

>On the other hand - I have a Whirlpool Digital Programmable Plug-In
>Lamp And Appliance Timer that you could program just about any way you
>want to operate "whatever" at a certain time each day he can program &
>just switch it to manual - all you have to do is hit the On/Off Button
>and it'll run "whatever" is plugged for the the programmed time.


Did you even read the original post, idiot?

He SPECIFICALLY does NOT want a clock based timer.

He wants an elapsed time device.
>
>I plug my AC into this one to shorten it's on time during long hot
>nights..it's curbs my electricity bills too....


Jeez... you little side comments are more retarded than your
suggestions are.

>
>The Whirlpool Corporation should still have these... I'm Out.........


You're out of brains. Try reading the original post next time.
Roy

2007-11-11, 8:25 pm


Re: Where to find a dedicated timer?

Group: alt.engineering.electrical Date: Sun, Nov 11, 2007, 4:38pm
(EST-3) From: UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org (UltimatePatriot)
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:11:38 -0500, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
On the other hand - I have a Whirlpool Digital Programmable Plug-In Lamp
And Appliance Timer that you could program just about any way you want
to operate "whatever" at a certain time each day he can program & just
switch it to manual - all you have to do is hit the On/Off Button and
it'll run "whatever" is plugged for the the programmed time.
=A0=A0=A0=A0Did you even read the original post, idiot?
=A0=A0=A0=A0He SPECIFICALLY does NOT want a clock based timer.
=A0=A0=A0=A0He wants an elapsed time device.
I plug my AC into this one to shorten it's on time during long hot
nights..it's curbs my electricity bills too....
=A0=A0=A0=A0Jeez... you little side comments are more retarded than your
suggestions are.
The Whirlpool Corporation should still have these... I'm Out.........
=A0=A0=A0=A0You're out of brains. Try reading the original post next
time.
--------------------
Picky isn't He.....Maybe if he plugs his device into your sassy talking
XXX while you're plugging Chairmans button he'll time it just as he
wants.
I'm not retarded, I just don't need to like hypocrits.

Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]

Roy

2007-11-11, 8:25 pm

Re: Where to find a dedicated timer?

Group: alt.engineering.electrical Date: Sun, Nov 11, 2007, 4:23pm
(EST-3) From: RUBored@crackasmile.org (ChairmanOfTheBored)
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:47:28 -0500, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
From: me9@privacy.net (Palindrome)
I sent:
http://www.cramer-motors.com/series78.html =A0 =A0 Made By M.H. Rhodes
Inc.
--------------------
IIUC, those wind back to zero as they operate. Not quite what the OP
wanted, unless, like mine and many darkroom timers, it springs back to
the preset time on completion:
"Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
time. "
--
Sue
IIUC, those wind back to zero as they operate. Not quite what the OP
wanted, unless, like mine and many darkroom timers, it springs back to
the preset time on completion:
"Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
time. "
--
Sue
------------------
Yours sounds more convenient., who manufactures it? This one wroks fine
you can wind it to any 0-60 min. interval, turn it back & stop it, it
doesn't take much effort to do it either.I guess it depends on what &
where you need a timed outlet.
I will eventually get a digital model if they are avaiable, Bench Type
of course.
This particular model was obtained with a Pesticide Mister I had a while
back., it conveniently mounted right on it.I keep it on my bench/work
space.
Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]
=A0=A0=A0=A0From this post it appear that you completely missed her
point. It also looks like you didn't even read her response.
=A0=A0=A0=A0AND you STILL have the sig flag screwed up, dipshit! If you
don't know what that is after SEVERAL folks have told you about it, you
don't need to be in this forum.
-----------------------
Oh' so now it's a forum - Fuck That Shit !

Turdman I'm doubling the word value for every belittling word, such as
dipshit, retard and idiot you hit my way.

Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]

ChairmanOfTheBored

2007-11-11, 9:25 pm

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:01:57 -0500, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:

>Re: Where to find a dedicated timer?
>
>Group: alt.engineering.electrical Date: Sun, Nov 11, 2007, 4:23pm
>(EST-3) From: RUBored@crackasmile.org (ChairmanOfTheBored)
>On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:47:28 -0500, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
>From: me9@privacy.net (Palindrome)
>I sent:
>http://www.cramer-motors.com/series78.html _ _ Made By M.H. Rhodes
>Inc.
>--------------------
>IIUC, those wind back to zero as they operate. Not quite what the OP
>wanted, unless, like mine and many darkroom timers, it springs back to
>the preset time on completion:
>"Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
>time. "
>--
>Sue
>IIUC, those wind back to zero as they operate. Not quite what the OP
>wanted, unless, like mine and many darkroom timers, it springs back to
>the preset time on completion:
>"Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
>time. "
>--
>Sue
>------------------
>Yours sounds more convenient., who manufactures it? This one wroks fine
>you can wind it to any 0-60 min. interval, turn it back & stop it, it
>doesn't take much effort to do it either.I guess it depends on what &
>where you need a timed outlet.
>I will eventually get a digital model if they are avaiable, Bench Type
>of course.
>This particular model was obtained with a Pesticide Mister I had a while
>back., it conveniently mounted right on it.I keep it on my bench/work
>space.
>Roy Q.T.
>Urban Technician
>[I don't make em, I just fix em]
>____From this post it appear that you completely missed her
>point. It also looks like you didn't even read her response.
>____AND you STILL have the sig flag screwed up, dipshit! If you
>don't know what that is after SEVERAL folks have told you about it, you
>don't need to be in this forum.
>-----------------------
>Oh' so now it's a forum - Fuck That Shit !


Yes, idiot! Usenet is a forum. This is one group which resides in
said forum. It consists of over 43,000 groups, and started as a defense
project communications medium. Get a clue, idiot!

Here, learn a little, BOY!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet#Newsreader_clients
>
>Turdman I'm doubling the word value for every belittling word, such as
>dipshit, retard and idiot you hit my way.


I calls 'em as I sees 'em, and I sees you for the true idiot that you
are.

For 51 yoa, you sure are one stupid mother fucker.

>


>Roy Q.T.
>Urban Technician
>[I don't make em, I just fix em]



If you FIX so much, then FIX you knowledge of Usenet, and FIX your
Usenet news client to post properly, you fucking obtuse dopey fuck.

Everyone here is tired of your INABILITY to post correctly. Most have
already filtered you, and you do not exist for them.
Roy

2007-11-12, 3:25 am

Will someone that matters tell us what's so pleasant or proper about
this dimwits post ......Full copy below =3D>

Re: Where to find a dedicated timer?

Group: alt.engineering.electrical Date: Sun, Nov 11, 2007, 6:38pm
(EST-3) From: RUBored@crackasmile.org (ChairmanOfTheBored)
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:01:57 -0500, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
Re: Where to find a dedicated timer?
Group: alt.engineering.electrical Date: Sun, Nov 11, 2007, 4:23pm
(EST-3) From: RUBored@crackasmile.org (ChairmanOfTheBored) On Sun, 11
Nov 2007 18:47:28 -0500, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote: From:
me9@privacy.net (Palindrome) I sent:
http://www.cramer-motors.com/series78.html =A0 =A0 Made By M.H. Rhodes
Inc.
--------------------
IIUC, those wind back to zero as they operate. Not quite what the OP
wanted, unless, like mine and many darkroom timers, it springs back to
the preset time on completion:
"Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
time. "
--
Sue
IIUC, those wind back to zero as they operate. Not quite what the OP
wanted, unless, like mine and many darkroom timers, it springs back to
the preset time on completion:
"Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
time. "
--
Sue
------------------
Yours sounds more convenient., who manufactures it? This one wroks fine
you can wind it to any 0-60 min. interval, turn it back & stop it, it
doesn't take much effort to do it either.I guess it depends on what &
where you need a timed outlet.
I will eventually get a digital model if they are avaiable, Bench Type
of course.
This particular model was obtained with a Pesticide Mister I had a while
back., it conveniently mounted right on it.I keep it on my bench/work
space.
Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]
=A0=A0=A0=A0From this post it appear that you completely missed her
point. It also looks like you didn't even read her response.
=A0=A0=A0=A0AND you STILL have the sig flag screwed up, dipshit! If you
don't know what that is after SEVERAL folks have told you about it, you
don't need to be in this forum.
-----------------------
Oh' so now it's a forum - Fuck That Shit !
=A0=A0=A0=A0Yes, idiot! Usenet is a forum. This is one group which
resides in said forum. It consists of over 43,000 groups, and started as
a defense project communications medium. Get a clue, idiot!
=A0=A0=A0=A0Here, learn a little, BOY!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet#Newsreader_clients
Turdman I'm doubling the word value for every belittling word, such as
dipshit, retard and idiot you hit my way.
=A0=A0=A0=A0I calls 'em as I sees 'em, and I sees you for the true idiot
that you are.
=A0=A0=A0=A0For 51 yoa, you sure are one stupid mother fucker.
Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]
=A0=A0=A0=A0If you FIX so much, then FIX you knowledge of Usenet, and
FIX your Usenet news client to post properly, you fucking obtuse dopey
fuck.
=A0=A0=A0=A0Everyone here is tired of your INABILITY to post correctly.
Most have already filtered you, and you do not exist for them.
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You Wish You Maniacal Mutiple Personality Posting Mongrel - it would be
their lose, so don't count on it.

I saw your pedantic wiki url - it's rubbish., not even worth the bytes
that hold it.

How do you like me now?
=AE

Bill Kaszeta / Photovoltaic Resources

2007-11-12, 3:25 am

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:14:12 -0700, "W. Kirk Crawford" <crawford.kirk@gmail.com> wrote:

>Greetings,
>
>I am looking a timer where I set the length of time, then push a button and the electric flow for that amount of time and shuts off.
>
>I don't want timers that turn on at a set time and off at a set time. That is out of the question.
>
>I want a timer where you set the length, then push a button. Every time you push the button the timers is set for that length of
>time.
>
>W. Kirk Crawford
>

Depends on your specific application.

If you specified operating volts, AC or DC, current, accuracy needed, etc. you might receive a specific answer.

For low accuracy on low voltage DC I use a simple power FET transistor with a capacitor/resistor on the gate, a relay,
and a SPST switch. The resistor can be a variable that you adjust to set the time. If the load is DC and not harmed by
a slow turnoff, the FET can drive it directly. If brewing your own, look at the old LM555 timer circuits for more
accuracy and a definate snap action.

There are 2-inch square timer blocks with a series of small switches to set the time, but they are specific to a voltage
and load current.
Bill Kaszeta
Photovoltaic Resources Int'l
Tempe Arizona USA
bill@pvri-removethis.biz
Paul Hovnanian P.E.

2007-11-12, 3:25 am

"W. Kirk Crawford" wrote:[color=darkred]
>
> I need to explain more, this timer does not draw power until the button is pushed.
>
> W. Kirk Crawford
> Tularosa, New Mexico
>
> "W. Kirk Crawford" <crawford.kirk@gmail.com> wrote in message news:953d4$47371c49$4212a498$14299@TULAROSA.NET...

Google 'Time Delay Drop Out'.

You will have to check out the specs on each relay. Some 'consume' a
small amount of power while waiting for the start command even though
their controlled contacts are open (pass no current) until the period is
initiated. You will have to define exactly what you mean by the timer
not 'drawing power'.

--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com
------------------------------------------------------------------
f u cn rd ths u r usng unx
gfretwell@aol.com

2007-11-12, 1:25 pm

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:48:52 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

>"W. Kirk Crawford" wrote:
>
>Google 'Time Delay Drop Out'.
>
>You will have to check out the specs on each relay. Some 'consume' a
>small amount of power while waiting for the start command even though
>their controlled contacts are open (pass no current) until the period is
>initiated. You will have to define exactly what you mean by the timer
>not 'drawing power'.



If you just want a one shot, the simplest way is a capacitor
discharging across a darlington with a pot to fine tune the discharge
time. If you are holding up a relay through a normally open contact
you can drive any load the relay can handle.
Dropped out, it is an open circuit
Long Ranger

2007-11-12, 1:25 pm

Doesn't a simple, octal based TDOD timer fill the bill here? That and a
momentary switch?


Stuart

2007-11-12, 5:25 pm

In article <gSJZi.110835$Nb1.16022@fe01.news.easynews.com>,
Palindrome <me9@privacy.net> wrote:

> The big problem with Chagford is that it is a sod to get to in a bus in
> mid-Summer...especially if you are the driver. Still, the look on some
> people's faces when they round a corner and find a hedge-to-hedge bus
> coming at them is something to treasure.


The Devon, Cornish and a lot of Welsh roads are good for getting in a lot
of reversing practice ! :-)

Not too bad in a car or an elderly Espace like mine but.....

> There is a little spot not too far from there that really is an almost
> entirely undiscovered wonder. A public path starts by going through a
> very uninspiring farmyard. A short walk later, you are beside a little
> river tumbling down a hidden valley, complete with deep pool to go
> swimming in. I've been going there for years and never seen a soul,
> other than from the farm...


Sounds nice. I'm afraid the weather did dampen our enthusiasm a little for
walking. We did one walk around Buckfast, mostly through woods, following
up with a visit to the Abbey and even when in the open the rain wasn't too
bad that day. The Friday before we left was dry and we managed to get up
on the moors near Princetown.

We will probably be heading down in that direction again next year but
whether to Chagford or somewhere else has yet to be decided.

--
Stuart Winsor

From is valid but subject to change without notice if it gets spammed.

For Barn dances and folk evenings in the Coventry and Warwickshire area
See: http://www.barndance.org.uk
Stuart

2007-11-12, 5:25 pm

In article <gSJZi.110835$Nb1.16022@fe01.news.easynews.com>,
Palindrome <me9@privacy.net> wrote:
> The big problem with Chagford is that it is a sod to get to in a bus in
> mid-Summer...especially if you are the driver. Still, the look on some
> people's faces when they round a corner and find a hedge-to-hedge bus
> coming at them is something to treasure.


The Devon, Cornish and a lot of Welsh roads are good for getting in a lot
of reversing practice ! :-)

Not too bad in a car or an elderly Espace like mine but.....

> There is a little spot not too far from there that really is an almost
> entirely undiscovered wonder. A public path starts by going through a
> very uninspiring farmyard. A short walk later, you are beside a little
> river tumbling down a hidden valley, complete with deep pool to go
> swimming in. I've been going there for years and never seen a soul,
> other than from the farm...


Sounds nice. I'm afraid the weather did dampen our enthusiasm a little for
walking. We did one walk around Buckfast, mostly through woods, following
up with a visit to the Abbey and even when in the open the rain wasn't too
bad that day. The Friday before we left was dry and we managed to get up
on the moors near Princetown.

We will probably be heading down in that direction again next year but
whether to Chagford or somewhere else has yet to be decided.

BTW.

Does this little group of children here /ever/ stop hurling obscenities at
each other?

--
Stuart Winsor

From is valid but subject to change without notice if it gets spammed.

For Barn dances and folk evenings in the Coventry and Warwickshire area
See: http://www.barndance.org.uk
Palindrome

2007-11-12, 5:25 pm

Stuart wrote:
> In article <gSJZi.110835$Nb1.16022@fe01.news.easynews.com>,
> Palindrome <me9@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>
> The Devon, Cornish and a lot of Welsh roads are good for getting in a lot
> of reversing practice ! :-)
>
> Not too bad in a car or an elderly Espace like mine but.....
>
>
> Sounds nice. I'm afraid the weather did dampen our enthusiasm a little for
> walking. We did one walk around Buckfast, mostly through woods, following
> up with a visit to the Abbey and even when in the open the rain wasn't too
> bad that day. The Friday before we left was dry and we managed to get up
> on the moors near Princetown.
>
> We will probably be heading down in that direction again next year but
> whether to Chagford or somewhere else has yet to be decided.
>


My reply email is valid. If you want to drop me a line next year to
discuss anywhere in particular, feel free. There is also a Devon
newsgroup as well - which gives reasonably reliable advice on pubs and
eateries.

--
Sue




Stuart

2007-11-12, 5:25 pm

In article <iC4_i.491716$vo5.282847@fe04.news.easynews.com>,
Palindrome <me9@privacy.net> wrote:
> My reply email is valid. If you want to drop me a line next year to
> discuss anywhere in particular, feel free. There is also a Devon
> newsgroup as well - which gives reasonably reliable advice on pubs and
> eateries.


Thankyou.

I will place in my address book

--
Stuart Winsor

From is valid but subject to change without notice if it gets spammed.

For Barn dances and folk evenings in the Coventry and Warwickshire area
See: http://www.barndance.org.uk
Stuart

2007-11-12, 8:25 pm

In article <4f40c852edSW_NOSPAM@dsl.pipex.com>,
Stuart <SW_NOSPAM@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> In article <iC4_i.491716$vo5.282847@fe04.news.easynews.com>,
> Palindrome <me9@privacy.net> wrote:
[color=darkred]
> Thankyou.


> I will place in my address book


I should have mentioned that my reply address is also valid but when I
contact you it will probably be from my private address which uses my real
name.

--
Stuart Winsor

From is valid but subject to change without notice if it gets spammed.

For Barn dances and folk evenings in the Coventry and Warwickshire area
See: http://www.barndance.org.uk
ChairmanOfTheBored

2007-11-12, 8:25 pm

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:13:12 -0800, "Long Ranger"
<worpylorp@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Doesn't a simple, octal based TDOD timer fill the bill here? That and a
>momentary switch?
>

Feeding a solid state relay or bank of them... sure.
Roy

2007-11-13, 3:25 am


FromChairmanOfTheBored)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:13:12 -0800, "Long Ranger"
<worpylorp@mindspring.com> wrote:
Doesn't a simple, octal based TDOD timer fill the bill here? That and a
momentary switch?
=A0=A0=A0=A0Feeding a solid state relay or bank of them... sure.
---------------------
The OP hasn't even mentioned what time lapse he needs......I haven't
hashed out any solid state circuits in a while., just ready made kits &
occasionaly I've canabalize a few gagets, last was for few fun LED
circuits for a friends novelty store - Eyes for a Grim Reaper & several
Dragon Skulls - Bikers }

INHO I think he should go with what programmable timers are available -
or go to an Electronic Design Group - not that we couldn't figure it out
here.
=AE

ChairmanOfTheBored

2007-11-13, 3:25 am

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:39:58 -0500, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:

>
>FromChairmanOfTheBored)
>On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:13:12 -0800, "Long Ranger"
><worpylorp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Doesn't a simple, octal based TDOD timer fill the bill here? That and a
>momentary switch?
>____Feeding a solid state relay or bank of them... sure.
>---------------------
>The OP hasn't even mentioned what time lapse he needs......I haven't
>hashed out any solid state circuits in a while., just ready made kits &
>occasionaly I've canabalize a few gagets, last was for few fun LED
>circuits for a friends novelty store - Eyes for a Grim Reaper & several
>Dragon Skulls - Bikers }
>
>INHO I think he should go with what programmable timers are available -
>or go to an Electronic Design Group - not that we couldn't figure it out
>here.

I already posted a link to a site with a micro-processor controlled
timer switch... home brew.
LinkBot





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