Electrical Engineering - Receptacle on kitchen peninsula

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Receptacle on kitchen peninsula

dummy

2007-03-16, 1:25 pm

Hi,

I think I asked a question here once before with great results. We
are installing a peninsula in our kitchen and it will have the
required receptacle where it meets the wall but I see now that I need
one elsewhere on the peninsula. The peninsula will be totally flat
granite and I am wondering what my options are for adding a receptacle
without cutting into the granite and building up an unsightly box. At
the far end there would be a place to put the receptacle "under" the
granite but I'm wondering what is required when doing this? How much
can the lip of the granite be to be acceptable if at all or if there
is another solution.

Thanks in advance,

David

ehsjr

2007-03-16, 5:25 pm

dummy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think I asked a question here once before with great results. We
> are installing a peninsula in our kitchen and it will have the
> required receptacle where it meets the wall but I see now that I need
> one elsewhere on the peninsula. The peninsula will be totally flat
> granite and I am wondering what my options are for adding a receptacle
> without cutting into the granite and building up an unsightly box. At
> the far end there would be a place to put the receptacle "under" the
> granite but I'm wondering what is required when doing this? How much
> can the lip of the granite be to be acceptable if at all or if there
> is another solution.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> David
>

Put the receptacles in the support pedestal below
the granite top.

~ ~
| |
| | < Wall
| |
R| |
--------------------------------| |
| Granite | |
--------------------------------| | R = receptacle
R | |
| |
| |
~ ~
Side view above, end view below

----------------
| Granite |
----------------
|Pedestal|
| |
R| |R
~ ~

**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY**

2007-03-16, 9:25 pm

Is the granite a solid slab or do you have a "bull nose" ? Does the slab
overhang the edge at some point? If so, you could glue the back of a
low profile plastic electrical box to the underside of the slab and
although you would have to bend down to plug into the inverted outlet,
it would be out of sight. You might also check out Wiremold for some low
profile power outlet strips which might fit in a tighter space. Are you
using an architect?

dummy wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I think I asked a question here once before with great results. We
>are installing a peninsula in our kitchen and it will have the
>required receptacle where it meets the wall but I see now that I need
>one elsewhere on the peninsula. The peninsula will be totally flat
>granite and I am wondering what my options are for adding a receptacle
>without cutting into the granite and building up an unsightly box. At
>the far end there would be a place to put the receptacle "under" the
>granite but I'm wondering what is required when doing this? How much
>can the lip of the granite be to be acceptable if at all or if there
>is another solution.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>David
>
>
>

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P

Long Ranger

2007-03-17, 3:25 am

"dummy" <ghegg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174067852.592599.172770@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I think I asked a question here once before with great results. We
> are installing a peninsula in our kitchen and it will have the
> required receptacle where it meets the wall but I see now that I need
> one elsewhere on the peninsula. The peninsula will be totally flat
> granite and I am wondering what my options are for adding a receptacle
> without cutting into the granite and building up an unsightly box. At
> the far end there would be a place to put the receptacle "under" the
> granite but I'm wondering what is required when doing this? How much
> can the lip of the granite be to be acceptable if at all or if there
> is another solution.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> David
>
There are some nice low-profile strips made just for concealing under the
lip, or under cabinets. I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do, but a
face-up outlet is not allowed in a counter top, for obvious reasons. Can you
feed a circuit through the pedestal/cabinetry, and place an outlet in the
side of the thing? If you are working with an electrician with much remodel
experience, he can probably help with ideas.

dummy

2007-03-17, 1:25 pm

HI,

I'm doing the electrical work myself and everything is fine up to this
point. I wouldn't want a face-up outlet and I'd rather not have a big
unsightly box on top of the granite its a nice open flat surface. I'm
just trying to make sure I am allowed to put a receptacle "under" the
lip of the granite attached to the wooden base that is holding the
granite up. It seems that I can as long as I meet a few requirements
like the extension of the lip and the placement below the lip.

Thanks,
David

rtwgfp@yahoo.com

2007-03-17, 5:25 pm

You can place the outlet at the end of counter on the vertical face of the
cabinet, cut in an outlet box ,metal with ear type flanges is best feed the
wire #12 AWG Romex and protect with 1/2 " flex w/ straps .Make sure its tied
in with the other outlet for GFI protection. route it in the cabinet , drill
some holes, your good. place it down a few inches from the granite, maybe 6"
to the top of the box
Good Luck

gfretwell@aol.com

2007-03-17, 8:25 pm

On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:12:49 GMT, rtwgfp@yahoo.com wrote:

>wire #12 AWG Romex and protect with 1/2 " flex

Why not just use MC cable and avoid dealing with romex plus FMC?
The BORG sells short rolls in a box

Long Ranger

2007-03-18, 3:25 am

<gfretwell@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:12:49 GMT, rtwgfp@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> Why not just use MC cable and avoid dealing with romex plus FMC?
> The BORG sells short rolls in a box

Plus it's not exactly kosher to pull "Romex" into conduit.

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