Electrical Engineering - expensive electronics equipment

Author

expensive electronics equipment

bob@coolgroups.com

2007-04-05, 8:25 pm

I was just wondering what most companies do if an employee
accidentally breaks an expensive piece of electronics equipment.

Thank you.

Rheilly Phoull

2007-04-05, 8:25 pm

<bob@coolgroups.com> wrote in message
news:1175819299.348900.204280@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>I was just wondering what most companies do if an employee
> accidentally breaks an expensive piece of electronics equipment.
>
> Thank you.
>
Generally they would voice (at mid management level) their displeasure
dependant on if there was carelessness invoved and then arrange for another
item to be sourced.

--
Cheers .......... Rheilly P

DaveB

2007-04-05, 8:25 pm

On 5 Apr 2007 17:28:19 -0700, bob@coolgroups.com wrote:

>I was just wondering what most companies do if an employee
>accidentally breaks an expensive piece of electronics equipment.
>
>Thank you.

Sheesh go ahead and tell em what you broke.

Let us know how your job search is going.

Good Luck
Daveb

**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY**

2007-04-06, 3:25 am

It kind of depends? What kind of equipment? Did you back over an
oscilliscope? Or did you drop a wrench in an MRI nachine? Bob, do you
work for me?

bob@coolgroups.com wrote:

>I was just wondering what most companies do if an employee
>accidentally breaks an expensive piece of electronics equipment.
>
>Thank you.
>
>
>

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P

Long Ranger

2007-04-06, 3:25 am

Palindrome

2007-04-06, 3:25 am

bob@coolgroups.com wrote:
> I was just wondering what most companies do if an employee
> accidentally breaks an expensive piece of electronics equipment.
>
Repair it, get it repaired or get a replacement.

Plus, if the accident was actually gross negligence, particularly gross
negligence that could have resulted in injury or death, then they may
invoke the company disciplinary procedure. Which could result in dismissal.

Plus, if the relevant state and national employment legislation allows
for it, they could dismiss the employee on the spot. Or offer to keep
him on, if he pays for the damage in installments from his pay.

Plus they may offer counselling in anger management, if the accident
featured equipment known to be difficult and an open window..

--
Sue

MassiveProng

2007-04-06, 3:25 am

On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 08:51:40 +0800, "Rheilly Phoull"
<rheilly@bigpong.com.au> Gave us:

>
><bob@coolgroups.com> wrote in message
>news:1175819299.348900.204280@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>Generally they would voice (at mid management level) their displeasure
>dependant on if there was carelessness invoved and then arrange for another
>item to be sourced.

They can usually write off the loss as well, and recover some of the
lost dollars from reduced tax expenditures.

MassiveProng

2007-04-06, 3:25 am

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 04:54:41 GMT, "Long Ranger"
<worpylorp@mindspring.com> Gave us:

>
><bob@coolgroups.com> wrote in message
>news:1175819299.348900.204280@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>They're gonn'a spank your pee-pee!
>
That's "whack", and one must be a bailiff to do so!

MassiveProng

2007-04-06, 3:25 am

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 07:48:41 GMT, Palindrome <me9@privacy.net> Gave
us:

>bob@coolgroups.com wrote:
>Repair it, get it repaired or get a replacement.
>
>Plus, if the accident was actually gross negligence, particularly gross
>negligence that could have resulted in injury or death, then they may
>invoke the company disciplinary procedure. Which could result in dismissal.

I was talking on a phone that some dope placed on the top shelf of a
work bench (the one in the back of the bench). and I had a soda in my
hand. I dropped it, and it did a Mt Vesuvius (Dr. Pepper style)onto a
nice new Sun Workstation keyboard.

I know... no greta loss, but I have not spilled a drink, including
big open coffee cups on a bench in decades... if ever!

I was more pissed at me that they were..

The Kbd was spill proof... electrically, but we all know what Dr.
Pepper turns into when it dries out.

They changed it out, and one day I spent a couple hours popping key
caps, and q-tipping keyswitch slides. I got nearly all of it, but a
couple of keys are still sluggish. The qtip must have saturated and
left some behind.

I still feel bad about it, and will re-do those keys soon.

Even though it is an El Cheapo technology as keyboards go (membrane
sw), I am sure that Sun wants six times what it is worth for a new
one.

The worst thing is the raz I get from the software engineers about
it, especially when I have a soda in hand. :-[

It's funny, but it's not... ya know...
>
>Plus, if the relevant state and national employment legislation allows
>for it, they could dismiss the employee on the spot. Or offer to keep
>him on, if he pays for the damage in installments from his pay.
>
>Plus they may offer counselling in anger management, if the accident
>featured equipment known to be difficult and an open window..

Palindrome

2007-04-06, 3:25 am

MassiveProng wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 07:48:41 GMT, Palindrome <me9@privacy.net> Gave
> us:
>
>
>
>
> I was talking on a phone that some dope placed on the top shelf of a
> work bench (the one in the back of the bench). and I had a soda in my
> hand. I dropped it, and it did a Mt Vesuvius (Dr. Pepper style)onto a
> nice new Sun Workstation keyboard.
<snip>

A good friend (not me!) spilled fruit juice on her 1100 GBP 2 years old
laptop. (I had bought an identical model). The insurance company
replaced it with a new 1300 GBP model. She then broke that one by
sitting on it, some 2 years later. They replaced it with a new 1500 GBP
model.

So whilst I, who am pretty careful and conscientous about things, am
still using my now almost 6 year old Windows 98 machine with its almost
zero battery run time, she is running an extremely nice, umpteen times
faster thing with 6 hours run time...

They do say that virtue is its own reward - but blondes do get more
tangible ones ....

--
Sue

MassiveProng

2007-04-06, 9:25 am

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 08:18:45 GMT, Palindrome <me9@privacy.net> Gave
us:

>A good friend (not me!) spilled fruit juice on her 1100 GBP 2 years old
>laptop. (I had bought an identical model). The insurance company
>replaced it with a new 1300 GBP model. She then broke that one by
>sitting on it, some 2 years later. They replaced it with a new 1500 GBP
>model.

WOW! That's some service!

What brand? I WANT ONE! Do they have a tablet model?

Hehehe :-]

Long Ranger

2007-04-06, 1:25 pm

"MassiveProng" <MassiveProng@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in
message news:p5vb13ljgf03b54o126g02uh9hat8m634h@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 04:54:41 GMT, "Long Ranger"
> <worpylorp@mindspring.com> Gave us:
>
> That's "whack", and one must be a bailiff to do so!

I think "whacking" is reserved for Leslie Horwinkle.

Andrew Gabriel

2007-04-06, 5:25 pm

In article <1175819299.348900.204280@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
bob@coolgroups.com writes:
> I was just wondering what most companies do if an employee
> accidentally breaks an expensive piece of electronics equipment.

Reminds me of a field engineer who, whilst working the last
week of his notice period, managed to lose 20k's worth of HP
protocol analyser. His boss called up his new employer and
said if they happened to come across this, it belonged to
his former employer. The new employer withdrew their job
offer, and the bloke was out of work a week later.

On the whole, breaking an expensive piece of equipment costs
companies much less than the strategic mistakes made by
managers, which can cost them many man-years of wasted effort.
Just look at the costs of developing things like Itanium.
I'm sure Intel's shareholders would much rather someone had
dropped their laptop ten years ago ;-)

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Paul Hovnanian P.E.

2007-04-06, 8:25 pm

bob@coolgroups.com wrote:
>
> I was just wondering what most companies do if an employee
> accidentally breaks an expensive piece of electronics equipment.

Promote them to management to get them off the shop floor. See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dilbert_Principle

--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com
------------------------------------------------------------------
Great minds discuss ideas,
average minds discuss events,
small minds discuss people.

MassiveProng

2007-04-07, 3:25 am

On 06 Apr 2007 19:13:05 GMT, andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew
Gabriel) Gave us:

>On the whole, breaking an expensive piece of equipment costs
>companies much less than the strategic mistakes made by
>managers, which can cost them many man-years of wasted effort.
>Just look at the costs of developing things like Itanium.
>I'm sure Intel's shareholders would much rather someone had
>dropped their laptop ten years ago ;-)

HP still uses them, and still designs server systems around them.

MassiveProng

2007-04-07, 3:25 am

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:02:08 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<paul@hovnanian.com> Gave us:

>
>Promote them to management to get them off the shop floor. See

So if I report to work and knock over a million dollar rack, I'll
make VP of production floor safety!

Andrew Gabriel

2007-04-07, 3:25 am

In article <15de131qvuo5h0tmdajrah6ve9dn61ifi2@4ax.com>,
MassiveProng <MassiveProng@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> writes:
> On 06 Apr 2007 19:13:05 GMT, andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew
> Gabriel) Gave us:
>
>
> HP still uses them, and still designs server systems around them.

When Itanium dies, HP's enterprise server business is dead;
it bet its enterprise server business on the success of Itanium.
It lost a load of customers to Sun and IBM in the switch from
HP-PA to Itanium, and couldn't afford another processor shift.
Consequently, HP is having to pay Intel multi-billion $ figures
just to keep Itanium going, with it having failed to become a
commodity processor. For the rest of the industry, those who bet
their future on Itanium at the end of the last century either
no longer exist, or did manage to change direction.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

MassiveProng

2007-04-07, 9:25 am

On 07 Apr 2007 07:47:30 GMT, andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew
Gabriel) Gave us:

>In article <15de131qvuo5h0tmdajrah6ve9dn61ifi2@4ax.com>,
> MassiveProng <MassiveProng@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> writes:
>
>When Itanium dies, HP's enterprise server business is dead;
>it bet its enterprise server business on the success of Itanium.
>It lost a load of customers to Sun and IBM in the switch from
>HP-PA to Itanium, and couldn't afford another processor shift.
>Consequently, HP is having to pay Intel multi-billion $ figures
>just to keep Itanium going, with it having failed to become a
>commodity processor. For the rest of the industry, those who bet
>their future on Itanium at the end of the last century either
>no longer exist, or did manage to change direction.

Your guesswork is well worded, but has zero truth in it.

Andrew Gabriel

2007-04-07, 1:25 pm

In article <a17f139pbptges8ohb6fn074mdnc737m8b@4ax.com>,
MassiveProng <MassiveProng@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> writes:
>On 07 Apr 2007 07:47:30 GMT, andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew
>Gabriel) Gave us:
>
> Your guesswork is well worded, but has zero truth in it.

The first line is a forward looking guess, although it's very
difficult to imagine any other outcome when Itanium dies.
However, the remainder is describing events that have already
happened, so it's rather difficult to claim they're untrue.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

DaveC

2007-04-09, 1:25 pm

> They do say that virtue is its own reward -
> but blondes do get more tangible ones ....

Like this one?
<http://img.inselpix.com/808591686279.jpg>

(Let it be noted that I resemble that remark!)
--
DaveC
me@bogusdomain.net
This is an invalid return address
Please reply in the news group

Michael A. Ball

2007-04-09, 5:25 pm

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:02:08 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

>bob@coolgroups.com wrote:
>
>Promote them to management to get them off the shop floor. See
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dilbert_Principle

That's right: "screw up------move up"! LOL

________________________
Whatever it takes.

LinkBot