Electrical Engineering - Wiring older gearmotor

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Wiring older gearmotor

2007-08-24, 8:25 pm

I bought a gearmotor on Ebay, and it didn't come with an obvious wiring
diagram. Since I'm still working my way up to the status of Rookie, I
haven't figured out how it goes.

There are two solid black wires and two solid blue wires.

There's a green and yellow wire, which even I know is the ground.

It's a Bodine gearmotor, type NCI-11D5 model 0463.

Volts 115
HZ 60
PH 1
Amp .22
HP 1/90
uF 3.75
Torque 40 lbs/in

For the moment I'll assume it uses a 3.75 uF or better capacitor.

According to Bodine's website, this unit is "Obsolete". According to me, if
it works, it's anything but obsolete. This is for Halloween, not the
landing gear on a 747. If/when it poops out, it's back to Ebay for another
one.

I did see Bodine's recommendation for a replacement, 30R-D series parallel
shaft AC gearmotor Model 5463. The wiring diagram does not show the same
color wires (Black, 2 Black-Yel TR., Blue, and ground) with the capacitor on
the Blue wire. Not too helpful.

Is there some place I haven't thought of to get wiring diagrams for older
motors? Is this a standard wiring scheme that any idiot (Almost any idiot)
should know about?

Much thanks in advance for help, or creative insults.

CS

gfretwell@aol.com

2007-08-25, 3:25 am

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:57:33 -0700, "CS" <idontwork@fcc.gov> wrote:

>I bought a gearmotor on Ebay, and it didn't come with an obvious wiring
>diagram. Since I'm still working my way up to the status of Rookie, I
>haven't figured out how it goes.
>
>There are two solid black wires and two solid blue wires.
>
>There's a green and yellow wire, which even I know is the ground.
>
>It's a Bodine gearmotor, type NCI-11D5 model 0463.
>
>Volts 115
>HZ 60
>PH 1
>Amp .22
>HP 1/90
>uF 3.75
>Torque 40 lbs/in
>
>For the moment I'll assume it uses a 3.75 uF or better capacitor.
>
>According to Bodine's website, this unit is "Obsolete". According to me, if
>it works, it's anything but obsolete. This is for Halloween, not the
>landing gear on a 747. If/when it poops out, it's back to Ebay for another
>one.
>
>I did see Bodine's recommendation for a replacement, 30R-D series parallel
>shaft AC gearmotor Model 5463. The wiring diagram does not show the same
>color wires (Black, 2 Black-Yel TR., Blue, and ground) with the capacitor on
>the Blue wire. Not too helpful.
>
>Is there some place I haven't thought of to get wiring diagrams for older
>motors? Is this a standard wiring scheme that any idiot (Almost any idiot)
>should know about?
>
>Much thanks in advance for help, or creative insults.
>
>CS

I assume you have googled all the numbers six ways from sunday (drop
suffixes etc)
Sometimes you can stumble into a guy on a newsgroup or message board
somewhere who got an answer.

Uncle Monster

2007-08-25, 9:25 am

CS wrote:
> I bought a gearmotor on Ebay, and it didn't come with an obvious wiring
> diagram. Since I'm still working my way up to the status of Rookie, I
> haven't figured out how it goes.
>
> There are two solid black wires and two solid blue wires.
>
> There's a green and yellow wire, which even I know is the ground.
>
> It's a Bodine gearmotor, type NCI-11D5 model 0463.
>
> Volts 115
> HZ 60
> PH 1
> Amp .22
> HP 1/90
> uF 3.75
> Torque 40 lbs/in
>
> For the moment I'll assume it uses a 3.75 uF or better capacitor.
>
> According to Bodine's website, this unit is "Obsolete". According to
> me, if it works, it's anything but obsolete. This is for Halloween, not
> the landing gear on a 747. If/when it poops out, it's back to Ebay for
> another one.
>
> I did see Bodine's recommendation for a replacement, 30R-D series
> parallel shaft AC gearmotor Model 5463. The wiring diagram does not
> show the same color wires (Black, 2 Black-Yel TR., Blue, and ground)
> with the capacitor on the Blue wire. Not too helpful.
>
> Is there some place I haven't thought of to get wiring diagrams for
> older motors? Is this a standard wiring scheme that any idiot (Almost
> any idiot) should know about?
>
> Much thanks in advance for help, or creative insults.
>
> CS

Did you try their technical support? Click on support
on their site and send them an E-mail. Most companies
are good about giving you the information on older
products if they have it.

[8~{} Uncle Monster

ehsjr

2007-08-25, 5:25 pm

CS wrote:
> I bought a gearmotor on Ebay, and it didn't come with an obvious wiring
> diagram. Since I'm still working my way up to the status of Rookie, I
> haven't figured out how it goes.
>
> There are two solid black wires and two solid blue wires.
>
> There's a green and yellow wire, which even I know is the ground.
>
> It's a Bodine gearmotor, type NCI-11D5 model 0463.
>
> Volts 115
> HZ 60
> PH 1
> Amp .22
> HP 1/90
> uF 3.75
> Torque 40 lbs/in
>
> For the moment I'll assume it uses a 3.75 uF or better capacitor.
>
> According to Bodine's website, this unit is "Obsolete". According to
> me, if it works, it's anything but obsolete. This is for Halloween, not
> the landing gear on a 747. If/when it poops out, it's back to Ebay for
> another one.
>
> I did see Bodine's recommendation for a replacement, 30R-D series
> parallel shaft AC gearmotor Model 5463. The wiring diagram does not
> show the same color wires (Black, 2 Black-Yel TR., Blue, and ground)
> with the capacitor on the Blue wire. Not too helpful.

Look 1 box to the right of that diagram - see below.

>
> Is there some place I haven't thought of to get wiring diagrams for
> older motors? Is this a standard wiring scheme that any idiot (Almost
> any idiot) should know about?
>
> Much thanks in advance for help, or creative insults.
>
> CS

The Bodine site shows a connection diagram:
http://www.bodine-electric.com/Asp/...otor&Model=5463

***Start quoted material***

Black------+-------- Line
Blue-------+

Blue-------+
Black------+-------- Line

Yel/Green----------- Ground

To reverse direction transpose blue leads.

***End quoted material***

That should do it for you.

Ed

2007-08-25, 8:25 pm

I saw that, and it certainly appears to be the same thing, however, I don't
see a place for a capacitor. Does this mean I don't need one?

Thanks,

CS

"ehsjr" <ehsjr@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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> CS wrote:
>
> Look 1 box to the right of that diagram - see below.
>
>
> The Bodine site shows a connection diagram:
> http://www.bodine-electric.com/Asp/...otor&Model=5463
>
> ***Start quoted material***
>
> Black------+-------- Line
> Blue-------+
>
> Blue-------+
> Black------+-------- Line
>
> Yel/Green----------- Ground
>
>
> To reverse direction transpose blue leads.
>
> ***End quoted material***
>
> That should do it for you.
>
> Ed

ehsjr

2007-08-27, 3:25 am

CS wrote:
> I saw that, and it certainly appears to be the same thing, however, I
> don't see a place for a capacitor. Does this mean I don't need one?
>
> Thanks,
>
> CS
>

You don't need a capacitor.
Ed

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