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Is the magnetic scale preventer scam dead?
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| Salmon Egg 2007-09-17, 5:25 pm |
| With all this Powersaver crap being discussed lately, I am reminded of a
popular scam of about five or ten years ago. The scammers were selling a
magnetic device that you put on the outside of a pipe that would prevent the
minerals in hard water from depositing as scale. I don't remember hearing a
peep about that over the last few years.
I have seen "magnetized" water for sale even more recently.
Bill
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Iraq: About three Virginia Techs a month
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| daestrom 2007-09-17, 5:25 pm |
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"Salmon Egg" <salmonegg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> With all this Powersaver crap being discussed lately, I am reminded of a
> popular scam of about five or ten years ago. The scammers were selling a
> magnetic device that you put on the outside of a pipe that would prevent
> the
> minerals in hard water from depositing as scale. I don't remember hearing
> a
> peep about that over the last few years.
>
> I have seen "magnetized" water for sale even more recently.
>
Not to mention special magnets to put on your car's fuel line to
'magnetically align' the fuel molecules for better mileage :-)
daestrom
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| In article <46eef792$0$18910$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com says...
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> "Salmon Egg" <salmonegg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:C314284B.9D03A%salmonegg@sbcglobal.net...
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> Not to mention special magnets to put on your car's fuel line to
> 'magnetically align' the fuel molecules for better mileage :-)
Or your wrist to cure cancer.
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Keith
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krw wrote:
> Or your wrist to cure cancer.
Actually the cancer cure works much better than the fuel mileage
enhancer!
The reason is that cancer cures seems to have a large psychosomatic
factor whereas your car's engine is not so easily influenced by
imagination.
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Is the magnetic scale preventer scam dead?
Group: alt.engineering.electrical Date: Mon, Sep 17, 2007, 7:49pm
(EDT+4) From: salmonegg@sbcglobal.net (Salmon=A0Egg)
With all this Powersaver crap being discussed lately, I am reminded of a
popular scam of about five or ten years ago. The scammers were selling a
magnetic device that you put on the outside of a pipe that would prevent
the minerals in hard water from depositing as scale. I don't remember
hearing a peep about that over the last few years.
I have seen "magnetized" water for sale even more recently.
Bill
--
Iraq: About three Virginia Techs a month
I remember seeing something about a strip with a winding inside that
you're supposed to stick inside your electric panel & it's suppose to
purify the energy with something called Orgone - I guess it works better
with the tinfoil hat on;) - but someone I met swears by the other Orgone
Related stuff, like a bunch of shredded cooper bit's and a coil encased
in transparent plastic casing you can make it all at home with epoxy &
the above mentioned guts - I never really got into it, but it apparently
helped him, he got married & moved out of the slum;)All with his little
Orgone Generators planted all over in is apartment & one around his
neck.
They looked cool, if you fired a laser at it it would probably ricochet
& kill you }
Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]
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| "Salmon Egg" <salmonegg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:C314284B.9D03A%salmonegg@sbcglobal.net...
> With all this Powersaver crap being discussed lately, I am reminded of a
> popular scam of about five or ten years ago. The scammers were selling a
> magnetic device that you put on the outside of a pipe that would prevent
> the
> minerals in hard water from depositing as scale. I don't remember hearing
> a
> peep about that over the last few years.
My wife had one on her water line when I met her. When we married and
bought a house, she asked if I was going to get one. I'm still chuckling.
Pyramid scams, multi-level marketing scams, countless gas saving scams,
health product scams, all come and go depending on the economy, price of
gas, success of other products, and so on.
They make minor changes to scam function, major changes to scam names, but
the two things that never seem to change are the scams, and the stupid
and/or ignorant people that fall for them.
No, I'm not a brilliant electrical engineer, but I do know scams. heh
> I have seen "magnetized" water for sale even more recently.
Beats the radioactive water sold in times past.
CS
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| ChairmanOfTheBored 2007-09-18, 3:25 am |
| On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:55:12 -0400, "daestrom"
<daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com> wrote:
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>"Salmon Egg" <salmonegg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:C314284B.9D03A%salmonegg@sbcglobal.net...
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>Not to mention special magnets to put on your car's fuel line to
>'magnetically align' the fuel molecules for better mileage :-)
>
>daestrom
A pet rock band has never made an album.
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| TheKraken 2007-09-18, 3:25 am |
| On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:49:14 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
>They looked cool, if you fired a laser at it it would probably ricochet
>& kill you }
You would never be allowed to come close to any laser with a power
level of such a capacity, and if you "fired" one that was that powerful
at whatever the fuck you are mumbling about, it would vaporize it, not
"ricochet".
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| From:ReachUpandSuckYouDowntotheDepths@yup.org (TheKraken) [Medusas Head
Still Cracks You Up]
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:49:14 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
They looked cool, if you fired a laser at it
it would probably ricochet & kill you }
=A0=A0=A0=A0You would never be allowed to come close to any laser with a
power level of such a capacity, and if you "fired" one that was that
powerful at whatever the fuck you are mumbling about, it would vaporize
it, not "ricochet".
Maybe I don't want to have anything to do with such a Laser...AND, Of
Course it would not harm this Homemade Device, if so designed....The
Ore in it is not what you think..I don't know it exact composition. but,
it cannot absorb energy it relfects it only or do you think Lasers
Penetrate every fucking thing on earth ?
Mirrors, Prisms, & the likes of them are Useless in this great world of
inaccessible High Powered lasers of yours..I could make one up from US
Gov. Surplus & several Fair Radio Mail Orders that would change your
mind about me if I wanted to... $o Watt Now?
Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]
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| TheKraken 2007-09-18, 3:25 am |
| On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 02:56:54 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
>From:ReachUpandSuckYouDowntotheDepths@yup.org (TheKraken) [Medusas Head
>Still Cracks You Up]
>On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:49:14 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
>They looked cool, if you fired a laser at it
>it would probably ricochet & kill you }
>
>____You would never be allowed to come close to any laser with a
>power level of such a capacity, and if you "fired" one that was that
>powerful at whatever the fuck you are mumbling about, it would vaporize
>it, not "ricochet".
>
>Maybe I don't want to have anything to do with such a Laser...AND, Of
>Course it would not harm this Homemade Device, if so designed....The
>Ore in it is not what you think..I don't know it exact composition. but,
>it cannot absorb energy it relfects it only or do you think Lasers
>Penetrate every fucking thing on earth ?
>
>Mirrors, Prisms, & the likes of them are Useless in this great world of
>inaccessible High Powered lasers of yours..I could make one up from US
>Gov. Surplus & several Fair Radio Mail Orders that would change your
>mind about me if I wanted to... $o Watt Now?
>
>Roy Q.T.
>Urban Technician
>[I don't make em, I just fix em]
Bwuahahahahahaaha! Yeah, you could waste several thousand dollars and
STILL only make a laser capable of burning you, not "ricochet and kill"
you. Shame though. You killing yourself would make a good video.
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| From:ReachUpandSuckYouDowntotheDepths@yup.org (TheKraken)
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 02:56:54 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
From:ReachUpandSuckYouDowntotheDepths@yup.org (TheKraken)
You could waste several thousand dollars and STILL only make a laser
capable of burning you, not "ricochet and kill" you. Shame though. You
killing yourself would make a good video.
Sounds like something you'd do.,
WRahahahahahahahaha..
What a Maroon !
=AE}
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| "Roy" <ROYKEY@webtv.net> wrote in message
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From:ReachUpandSuckYouDowntotheDepths@yup.org (TheKraken) [Medusas Head
Still Cracks You Up]
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:49:14 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
They looked cool, if you fired a laser at it
it would probably ricochet & kill you }
You would never be allowed to come close to any laser with a
power level of such a capacity, and if you "fired" one that was that
powerful at whatever the fuck you are mumbling about, it would vaporize
it, not "ricochet".
Maybe I don't want to have anything to do with such a Laser...AND, Of
Course it would not harm this Homemade Device, if so designed....The
Ore in it is not what you think..I don't know it exact composition. but,
it cannot absorb energy it relfects it only or do you think Lasers
Penetrate every fucking thing on earth ?
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Kraken actually has a point. Everything absorbs some energy, no matter how
good it is at reflecting it. Otherwise the government folks wouldn't bother
designing a laser based missile defense or weapons. What would be the point
if the enemy could just slap some aluminum foil on everything?
CS
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| Michael A. Terrell 2007-09-18, 1:25 pm |
| CS wrote:
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> "Roy" <ROYKEY@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:27224-46EF76B6-551@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net...
> From:ReachUpandSuckYouDowntotheDepths@yup.org (TheKraken) [Medusas Head
> Still Cracks You Up]
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:49:14 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
> They looked cool, if you fired a laser at it
> it would probably ricochet & kill you }
>
> You would never be allowed to come close to any laser with a
> power level of such a capacity, and if you "fired" one that was that
> powerful at whatever the fuck you are mumbling about, it would vaporize
> it, not "ricochet".
>
> Maybe I don't want to have anything to do with such a Laser...AND, Of
> Course it would not harm this Homemade Device, if so designed....The
> Ore in it is not what you think..I don't know it exact composition. but,
> it cannot absorb energy it relfects it only or do you think Lasers
> Penetrate every fucking thing on earth ?
> --------------
> Kraken actually has a point. Everything absorbs some energy, no matter how
> good it is at reflecting it. Otherwise the government folks wouldn't bother
> designing a laser based missile defense or weapons. What would be the point
> if the enemy could just slap some aluminum foil on everything?
How long do you think your silly foil would last? With all the
microscopic debris hitting satellites, they soon have enough damaged
areas to burn. Once those spots start to burn, the damaged area
spreads.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Re: Is the magnetic scale preventer scam dead?
Group: alt.engineering.electrical Date: Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 2:00pm From:
mike.terrell@earthlink.net (Michael=A0A.=A0Terrell)
CS wrote:
"Roy" <ROYKEY@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27224-46EF76B6-551@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net...
From:ReachUpandSuckYouDowntotheDepths@yup.org (TheKraken) [Medusas Head
Still Cracks You Up]
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:49:14 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote: They
looked cool, if you fired a laser at it it would probably ricochet &
kill you }
You would never be allowed to come close to any laser with a power level
of such a capacity, and if you "fired" one that was that powerful at
whatever the fuck you are mumbling about, it would vaporize it, not
"ricochet".
Maybe I don't want to have anything to do with such a Laser...AND, Of
Course it would not harm this Homemade Device, if so designed....The Ore
in it is not what you think..I don't know it exact composition. but, it
cannot absorb energy it relfects it only or do you think Lasers
Penetrate every fucking thing on earth ?
--------------
Kraken actually has a point. Everything absorbs some energy, no matter
how good it is at reflecting it. Otherwise the government folks wouldn't
bother designing a laser based missile defense or weapons. What would be
the point if the enemy could just slap some aluminum foil on everything?
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0How long do you think your silly foil would last? With
all the microscopic debris hitting satellites, they soon have enough
damaged areas to burn. Once those spots start to burn, the damaged area
spreads.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
*** The mention of foil was a joke;) I think the Gadget is Holistic & I
personally don't put much sock on it....I know The Kraken has a
pragmatic point......However, when solving for X you do not need to take
Y into much consideration.The view from inside the lightbulb is not the
same as the one looking in - nuff said.
Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]
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| Michael A. Terrell 2007-09-18, 5:25 pm |
| Roy wrote:
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> *** The mention of foil was a joke;) I think the Gadget is Holistic & I
> personally don't put much sock on it....I know The Kraken has a
> pragmatic point......However, when solving for X you do not need to take
> Y into much consideration.The view from inside the lightbulb is not the
> same as the one looking in - nuff said.
In this case, the term is 'dimbulb', not 'light bulb'.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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| "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:46F0123A.9526C8DB@earthlink.net...
> CS wrote:
>
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> How long do you think your silly foil would last? With all the
> microscopic debris hitting satellites, they soon have enough damaged
> areas to burn. Once those spots start to burn, the damaged area
> spreads.
The mention of aluminum foil was a quick and dirty example of how a laser
weapon can be defeated, nothing more. Obviously, it would be ineffective in
harsh environments, but more robust substitutes wouldn't be difficult to
come by.
CS
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| In article <1190075544.000448.318260@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
bjacoby@iwaynet.net says...
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> krw wrote:
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> Actually the cancer cure works much better than the fuel mileage
> enhancer!
> The reason is that cancer cures seems to have a large psychosomatic
> factor whereas your car's engine is not so easily influenced by
> imagination.
Poor gas mileage won't kill you or the car. Magnetic cancer "cures"
can.
--
Keith
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| ChairmanOfTheBored 2007-09-18, 8:25 pm |
| On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:06:04 -0700, "CS" <idontwork@fcc.gov> wrote:
>"Roy" <ROYKEY@webtv.net> wrote in message
>news:27224-46EF76B6-551@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net...
>From:ReachUpandSuckYouDowntotheDepths@yup.org (TheKraken) [Medusas Head
>Still Cracks You Up]
>On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:49:14 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
>They looked cool, if you fired a laser at it
>it would probably ricochet & kill you }
>
>You would never be allowed to come close to any laser with a
>power level of such a capacity, and if you "fired" one that was that
>powerful at whatever the fuck you are mumbling about, it would vaporize
>it, not "ricochet".
>
>Maybe I don't want to have anything to do with such a Laser...AND, Of
>Course it would not harm this Homemade Device, if so designed....The
>Ore in it is not what you think..I don't know it exact composition. but,
>it cannot absorb energy it relfects it only or do you think Lasers
>Penetrate every fucking thing on earth ?
>--------------
>Kraken actually has a point. Everything absorbs some energy, no matter how
>good it is at reflecting it. Otherwise the government folks wouldn't bother
>designing a laser based missile defense or weapons. What would be the point
>if the enemy could just slap some aluminum foil on everything?
>
>CS
The funny part is that he actually thinks he could put together such a
device from "surplus" stocks.
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| TheKraken 2007-09-18, 8:25 pm |
| On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:22:26 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote:
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>Re: Is the magnetic scale preventer scam dead?
>
>Group: alt.engineering.electrical Date: Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 2:00pm From:
>mike.terrell@earthlink.net (Michael_A._Terrell)
>CS wrote:
>"Roy" <ROYKEY@webtv.net> wrote in message
>news:27224-46EF76B6-551@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net...
>From:ReachUpandSuckYouDowntotheDepths@yup.org (TheKraken) [Medusas Head
>Still Cracks You Up]
>On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:49:14 -0400, ROYKEY@webtv.net (Roy) wrote: They
>looked cool, if you fired a laser at it it would probably ricochet &
>kill you }
>You would never be allowed to come close to any laser with a power level
>of such a capacity, and if you "fired" one that was that powerful at
>whatever the fuck you are mumbling about, it would vaporize it, not
>"ricochet".
>Maybe I don't want to have anything to do with such a Laser...AND, Of
>Course it would not harm this Homemade Device, if so designed....The Ore
>in it is not what you think..I don't know it exact composition. but, it
>cannot absorb energy it relfects it only or do you think Lasers
>Penetrate every fucking thing on earth ?
>--------------
>Kraken actually has a point. Everything absorbs some energy, no matter
>how good it is at reflecting it. Otherwise the government folks wouldn't
>bother designing a laser based missile defense or weapons. What would be
>the point if the enemy could just slap some aluminum foil on everything?
>______How long do you think your silly foil would last? With
>all the microscopic debris hitting satellites, they soon have enough
>damaged areas to burn. Once those spots start to burn, the damaged area
>spreads.
>--
>Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
>prove it.
>Member of DAV #85.
>Michael A. Terrell
>Central Florida
>
>*** The mention of foil was a joke;) I think the Gadget is Holistic & I
>personally don't put much sock on it....I know The Kraken has a
>pragmatic point......However, when solving for X you do not need to take
>Y into much consideration.The view from inside the lightbulb is not the
>same as the one looking in - nuff said.
>
Idiot. You don't copy the sig flag from the previous poster, dipshit.
However, I know for a fact that your retarded XXX doesn't even know what
a sig flag is.
Aside from that, AGAIN you managed to say nothing at all.
You should have an award named for just how retarded the depths of
your stupidity can be. "nuff said"... Boy... you didn't say a damned
thing, dipshit.
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| "ChairmanOfTheBored" <RUBored@crackasmile.org> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:06:04 -0700, "CS" <idontwork@fcc.gov> wrote:
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> The funny part is that he actually thinks he could put together such a
> device from "surplus" stocks.
What's so funny? Plenty of surplus stuff sitting around, and these days,
you can shop all over the world from your couch.
Don't think someone can build a laser? How about a nuclear reactor with
stuff bought from Ebay?
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,510054502,00.html
CS
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| ChairmanOfTheBored 2007-09-19, 3:25 am |
| On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:34:24 -0700, "CS" <idontwork@fcc.gov> wrote:
>"ChairmanOfTheBored" <RUBored@crackasmile.org> wrote in message
>news:kto0f310u8svdlch1h7alm3fli8c5psrcs@4ax.com...
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>What's so funny? Plenty of surplus stuff sitting around, and these days,
>you can shop all over the world from your couch.
You cannot "shop" for the types of lasers they are shooting missiles
down with.
The damned power supply section alone takes up half a gutted 747!
>
>Don't think someone can build a laser?
That's not what I said. Are you as fucking dippy as he is?
> How about a nuclear reactor with
>stuff bought from Ebay?
Fucking idiots everywhere.
>
>http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,510054502,00.html
>
Are you really that stupid?
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