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What voltage is this cap?
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| John E. 2008-02-02, 5:25 pm |
| Axial electrolytic
approx 0.5 inch (12 mm) diam, 1.0 inch (25 mm) length
Markings:
HGC
CP-C
2J104K
123
Google tells me it's a 0.1uF, but I can't find a reference for the "2J"
voltage rating. And, any idea what the other markings are?
There are no manufacturer markings (logo, etc.), just plain gray shrink
tubing with the above alphanumeric markings.
This is used in a single-phase 240VAC low current box fan speed controller (1
TRIAC is the main current controller).
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
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John English
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| Lostgallifreyan 2008-02-02, 5:25 pm |
| John E. <incognito@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:0001HW.C3CA2A8200437482B01AD9AF@news.sf.sbcglobal.net:
> Axial electrolytic
> approx 0.5 inch (12 mm) diam, 1.0 inch (25 mm) length
>
> Markings:
> HGC
> CP-C
> 2J104K
> 123
>
> Google tells me it's a 0.1uF, but I can't find a reference for the "2J"
> voltage rating. And, any idea what the other markings are?
>
> There are no manufacturer markings (logo, etc.), just plain gray shrink
> tubing with the above alphanumeric markings.
>
> This is used in a single-phase 240VAC low current box fan speed
> controller (1 TRIAC is the main current controller).
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
That's a damn small capacitance for that size, though I agree with it, so it
implies a high voltage to match what you say. I first thought of 123 as
meaning 12,000 millivolts, after the convention of 104 for capacitance, but I
never heard of anyone actually doing it this way, and it's definitely not
12V.
Is the writing clear? Any chance that 123 is actually something else?
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| Don Kelly 2008-02-02, 5:25 pm |
| "John E." <incognito@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Axial electrolytic
> approx 0.5 inch (12 mm) diam, 1.0 inch (25 mm) length
>
> Markings:
> HGC
> CP-C
> 2J104K
> 123
>
> Google tells me it's a 0.1uF, but I can't find a reference for the "2J"
> voltage rating. And, any idea what the other markings are?
>
> There are no manufacturer markings (logo, etc.), just plain gray shrink
> tubing with the above alphanumeric markings.
>
> This is used in a single-phase 240VAC low current box fan speed controller
> (1
> TRIAC is the main current controller).
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> John English
It would have to withstand at least 240*1.41 =340V. I would suggest that it
would be a minimum of 400V and possibly 500V.
--
Don Kelly dhky@shawcross.ca
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| John E. wrote:
> Axial electrolytic
> approx 0.5 inch (12 mm) diam, 1.0 inch (25 mm) length
>
> Markings:
> HGC
> CP-C
> 2J104K
> 123
>
> Google tells me it's a 0.1uF, but I can't find a reference for the "2J"
> voltage rating. And, any idea what the other markings are?
>
> There are no manufacturer markings (logo, etc.), just plain gray shrink
> tubing with the above alphanumeric markings.
>
> This is used in a single-phase 240VAC low current box fan speed controller (1
> TRIAC is the main current controller).
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
..1 uf 1200 volt cap !
makes since to me..
most likely a snubber or bypass cap of some kind.
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| Phil Allison 2008-02-02, 8:25 pm |
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"John E."
> Axial electrolytic ...
** I bet it is NOT !!!
It has no polarity markings - right ?
Both ends look the same - right ?
Then it is an oil filled paper/film type.
" 2J104K " = 0.1uF, 10 % tolerance and probably the 200 volt DC rated.
........ Phil
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| Stuart 2008-02-02, 8:25 pm |
| In article <aW6pj.39189$ow.36625@pd7urf1no>,
Don Kelly <dhky@shaw.ca> wrote:
> It would have to withstand at least 240*1.41 =340V. I would suggest
> that it would be a minimum of 400V and possibly 500V.
In the UK where 240V is the norm, 400V would be the normal rating for a
motor start/run cap
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| Brian MW0GKX 2008-02-02, 9:25 pm |
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"John E." <incognito@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Axial electrolytic
> approx 0.5 inch (12 mm) diam, 1.0 inch (25 mm) length
>
> Markings:
> HGC
> CP-C
> 2J104K
> 123
>
Take a look here:
http://highfields-arc.6te.net/constructors/capacit.htm
it may help.
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| Franc Zabkar 2008-02-02, 9:25 pm |
| On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:51:01 +0000 (GMT), Stuart
<SW_NOSPAM@dsl.pipex.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>In article <aW6pj.39189$ow.36625@pd7urf1no>,
> Don Kelly <dhky@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>In the UK where 240V is the norm, 400V would be the normal rating for a
>motor start/run cap
0.1uF seems much too small for a motor start/run cap. In any case,
don't these caps have an AC rating rather than a DC rating?
- Franc Zabkar
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| Andrew Rossmann 2008-02-03, 9:25 am |
| In article <0001HW.C3CA2A8200437482B01AD9AF@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>,
incognito@yahoo.com says...
> Axial electrolytic
> approx 0.5 inch (12 mm) diam, 1.0 inch (25 mm) length
>
> Markings:
> HGC
> CP-C
> 2J104K
> 123
>
> Google tells me it's a 0.1uF, but I can't find a reference for the "2J"
> voltage rating. And, any idea what the other markings are?
>
> There are no manufacturer markings (logo, etc.), just plain gray shrink
> tubing with the above alphanumeric markings.
>
> This is used in a single-phase 240VAC low current box fan speed controller (1
> TRIAC is the main current controller).
Looking at manufacturer sites, 2J is a common voltage marking for 630V.
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| Eeyore 2008-02-03, 9:25 am |
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Andrew Rossmann wrote:
> 2J is a common voltage marking for 630V.
Interesting ! Any more handy tips like that ? It's a new one on me for sure.
Graham
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| Peter Parry 2008-02-03, 1:25 pm |
| On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:11:14 -0800, John E. <incognito@yahoo.com>
wrote:
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>Google tells me it's a 0.1uF, but I can't find a reference for the "2J"
>voltage rating. And, any idea what the other markings are?
630VDC 0.1uF
1H = 50VDC
1J = 63VDC
2A =100VDC
2D = 200VDC
2E = 250VDC
2G = 400VDC
2J = 630VDC
3A = 1,000VDC
3B = 1250VDC
3C = 1600VDC
3D = 2,000VDC
3E = 2,500VDC
01 = 190VAC
02 = 250VAC
03 = 275VAC
04 = 300VAC
05 = 400VAC
06 = 440VAC
07 = 500VAC
08 = 600VAC
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Peter Parry
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| Franc Zabkar 2008-02-03, 5:25 pm |
| On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:52:56 +0000, Peter Parry <peter@wpp.ltd.uk> put
finger to keyboard and composed:
>On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:11:14 -0800, John E. <incognito@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>630VDC 0.1uF
>
>1H = 50VDC
>1J = 63VDC
>2A =100VDC
2B = 125VDC
2C = 160VDC
>2D = 200VDC
>2E = 250VDC
2F = 315VDC
>2G = 400VDC
2H = 500VDC
>2J = 630VDC
>3A = 1,000VDC
>3B = 1250VDC
>3C = 1600VDC
>3D = 2,000VDC
>3E = 2,500VDC
>
>01 = 190VAC
>02 = 250VAC
>03 = 275VAC
>04 = 300VAC
>05 = 400VAC
>06 = 440VAC
>07 = 500VAC
>08 = 600VAC
The numbering doesn't always appear to be consistent:
http://www.taitsu.co.jp/media/english/epdf/pmsva_e.pdf
2F = 315VDC
5B = 125VAC
5E = 250VAC
http://www.kjcap.com/disc.asp
3F = 3KV DC
3G = 4KV DC
3H = 5KV DC
3I = 6KV DC
BTW, does anyone know what is meant by "POOT SIZE" and "POOT IEGTH".
:-)
- Franc Zabkar
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| Lostgallifreyan 2008-02-03, 5:25 pm |
| Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in
news:7d7cq3hh7ln465u5dg5p9jpgj31k09u0lf@4ax.com:
> BTW, does anyone know what is meant by "POOT SIZE" and "POOT IEGTH".
>:-)
>
Poot length? Mine tend to be of the order of 400 milliseconds.
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| John E. 2008-02-04, 5:25 pm |
| > Sounds a lot more like a tubular polypropylene/film/wax or similar
> capacitor than an electrolytic. Some of the better quality units
> (safety ratings? Danger, Will Robinson, safety ratings! Especially in
> a snubber on the AC line!) are in metal cans.
>
> Tim.
So, how does one decisively determine the type?
There are no markings whatsoever other than the ones described. The plastic
insulation (shrink) covers all but the inner diameter of the ends. The leads
are connected to the (aluminum) end caps which are identical.
--
John English
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| John E. 2008-02-05, 1:25 pm |
| > Given the application, it must be part of some snubber and safety-
> rated film caps would certainly be used in such a case.
Can you be more specific as to the type? Maybe a reference to a Mouser or
Digi-Key item?
Thanks,
--
John English
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| John E. 2008-02-05, 1:25 pm |
| > EPCOS B32232 series is an example of a film cap in a metal axial can:
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> http://www.epcos.com/inf/20/20/db/fc_05/MKT_B32232.pdf
>
> Digikey part number 495-3542-ND seems to match your component
> superficially at least.
>
> You will find a lot of film caps with pulse handling capability
> specifically called out these days. Especially used in switching power
> supplies and electronic ballasts at line voltage.
>
> Tim.
Thanks so much for your assistance. Invaluable to one whose knowledge in this
area is so... basic.
--
John English
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| Smitty Two 2008-02-05, 9:25 pm |
| In article <60kem3F1r88ltU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>
> ** I bet it is NOT !!!
>
> It has no polarity markings - right ?
>
> Both ends look the same - right ?
The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of non-polarized
electrolytics...
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| Ross Herbert 2008-02-06, 3:25 am |
| On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:08:52 -0800, Smitty Two <prestwhich@earthlink.net> wrote:
:In article <60kem3F1r88ltU1@mid.individual.net>,
: "Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote:
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:> > Axial electrolytic ...
:>
:> ** I bet it is NOT !!!
:>
:> It has no polarity markings - right ?
:>
:> Both ends look the same - right ?
:
:The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of non-polarized
:electrolytics...
Not possible to be a non-polar electrolytic because these don't usually go above
50Vdc and they are never marked with a voltage code such as 2J. It is most
likely a film type with voltage a bit higher than Phil's guess. My own guess
would have been 400V but since then we have more info on voltage codes and 630V
looks to be the answer.
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"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:7d7cq3hh7ln465u5dg5p9jpgj31k09u0lf@4ax.com...
>
> BTW, does anyone know what is meant by "POOT SIZE" and "POOT IEGTH".
> :-)
>
My poot length is 10", at least that's what I tell the ladies.
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