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| Long Ranger 2008-03-06, 8:25 pm |
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<johnn3wg9vc@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Aluminium is remarkable for its ability to resist corrosion and its
> light weight.
Oh yeah, that is why we have to put special ointment on our aluminum
conductor terminations.
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| glenbadd 2008-03-06, 8:25 pm |
| Bare aluminium immediately oxides on exposure to air, forming a thin
layer of aluminium oxide.
Note the spelling, "Aluminum" in US, "Aluminium" in rest of world?
Glenn.
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| phil-news-nospam@ipal.net 2008-03-06, 9:25 pm |
| On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 16:50:13 -0800 Long Ranger <lorpkins@earthlink .net> wrote:
| <johnn3wg9vc@gmail.com> wrote in message
| news:2d1a9811-1599-40bb-9c0b-fced079c2234@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
|> Aluminium is remarkable for its ability to resist corrosion and its
|> light weight.
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| Oh yeah, that is why we have to put special ointment on our aluminum
| conductor terminations.
Maybe India is about to embark on a few decades of installing aluminum
wiring in homes and office buildings.
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| Michael A. Terrell 2008-03-06, 9:25 pm |
| glenbadd wrote:
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> Bare aluminium immediately oxides on exposure to air, forming a thin
> layer of aluminium oxide.
>
> Note the spelling, "Aluminum" in US, "Aluminium" in rest of world?
>
> Glenn.
Note that Aluminum was the original spelling, and was changed to
Aluminium in England at a later date. The same goes for color and
colour.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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| Gerald Newton 2008-03-07, 3:25 am |
| On Mar 6, 4:02=A0am, johnn3wg...@gmail.com wrote:
> Aluminium is remarkable for its ability to resist corrosion and its
> light weight.
> richardshttp://www.indian-aluminium-products.com
I don't like aluminum. Back in the 80's we had to run all aluminum
rigid conduits at a hanger at Kaparuk Oil field on the North Slope in
Alaska because it was an Arco job and Arco owned an aluminum company.
At the end of the day I had aluminum all over me. It is a dark
looking stuff and it made my skin break out into rashes. Also, when I
tried to install a long straight run the pipe kept bowing on me. I
would have it straight as an arrow and I swear by the next day it was
bowing all over the place because of the expansion problems. The only
way to make it run straight is to not tighten the couplings. It
doesn't thread good in the threading machine either. Also, when we
went into old jobs where the aluminum was installed in later years the
conduit was bent all over the place because of people stepping on it.
It is too soft. Aluminum wire can't be buried in the ground in USE
cable in the northern part of Alaska because the frost will cause it
to go open and at terminations we have cold flow problems because of
the wide variations in temperature from -55 to +90 in any one year.
So that is what I have to say about aluminum.
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| Salmon Egg 2008-03-07, 3:25 am |
| In article <sa6dncRUB6slDE3anZ2dnUVZ_ournZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Long Ranger" <lorpkins@earthlink .net> wrote:
> <johnn3wg9vc@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2d1a9811-1599-40bb-9c0b-fced079c2234@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> Oh yeah, that is why we have to put special ointment on our aluminum
> conductor terminations.
Try containing lye solution in an aluminum can,
Bill
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| Long Ranger 2008-03-07, 3:25 am |
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"Salmon Egg" <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:SalmonEgg-004776.21002106032008@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
> In article <sa6dncRUB6slDE3anZ2dnUVZ_ournZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Long Ranger" <lorpkins@earthlink .net> wrote:
>
>
> Try containing lye solution in an aluminum can,
>
> Bill
Or even cola if there is a scratch in the lining.
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| Michael A. Terrell 2008-03-07, 3:25 am |
| Gerald Newton wrote:
>
> On Mar 6, 4:02 am, johnn3wg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I don't like aluminum. Back in the 80's we had to run all aluminum
> rigid conduits at a hanger at Kaparuk Oil field on the North Slope in
> Alaska because it was an Arco job and Arco owned an aluminum company.
> At the end of the day I had aluminum all over me. It is a dark
> looking stuff and it made my skin break out into rashes. Also, when I
> tried to install a long straight run the pipe kept bowing on me. I
> would have it straight as an arrow and I swear by the next day it was
> bowing all over the place because of the expansion problems. The only
> way to make it run straight is to not tighten the couplings. It
> doesn't thread good in the threading machine either. Also, when we
> went into old jobs where the aluminum was installed in later years the
> conduit was bent all over the place because of people stepping on it.
> It is too soft. Aluminum wire can't be buried in the ground in USE
> cable in the northern part of Alaska because the frost will cause it
> to go open and at terminations we have cold flow problems because of
> the wide variations in temperature from -55 to +90 in any one year.
> So that is what I have to say about aluminum.
Did you know that Buddy Ebsen (Jed Clampett) was supposed to play the
'Tin Man' in the 'Wizard of OZ'? The 'Tin Man' makeup was made with
aluminum dust, and nearly killed him. They had to replace him, because
he was hospitalized for a long time.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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| Stuart 2008-03-08, 1:25 pm |
| In article <47D0D3F6.79694A36@earthlink.net>,
Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Did you know that Buddy Ebsen (Jed Clampett) was supposed to play the
> 'Tin Man' in the 'Wizard of OZ'? The 'Tin Man' makeup was made with
> aluminum dust, and nearly killed him. They had to replace him, because
> he was hospitalized for a long time.
There is evidence, I believe, that it a cause of Altziemers
--
Stuart Winsor
From is valid but subject to change without notice if it gets spammed.
For Barn dances and folk evenings in the Coventry and Warwickshire area
See: http://www.barndance.org.uk
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| In article <4f7cf802a6SW_NOSPAM@dsl.pipex.com>,
SW_NOSPAM@dsl.pipex.com says...
> In article <47D0D3F6.79694A36@earthlink.net>,
> Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> There is evidence, I believe, that it a cause of Altziemers
I believe that theory was debunked a decade or so ago.
--
Keith
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| glenbadd 2008-03-10, 8:25 pm |
| On Mar 7, 1:34 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> glenbadd wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Note that Aluminum was the original spelling, and was changed to
> Aluminium in England at a later date. The same goes for color and
> colour.
>
> --
> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
> prove it.
> Member of DAV #85.
>
> Michael A. Terrell
> Central Florida
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium
has some interesting info:
"Present-day spelling
In the UK and other countries using British spelling, only aluminium
is used. In the United States, the spelling aluminium is largely
unknown, and the spelling aluminum predominates.[26][27] The Canadian
Oxford Dictionary prefers aluminum, whereas the Australian Macquarie
Dictionary prefers aluminium. The spelling in virtually all other
languages is analogous to the -ium ending.
The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) adopted
Aluminium as the standard international name for the element in 1990,
but three years later recognized aluminum as an acceptable variant.
Hence their periodic table includes both, but places aluminium first.
[28] IUPAC officially prefers the use of Aluminium in its internal
publications, although several IUPAC publications use the spelling
aluminum.[29]"
I'm in "British English" country, so I'll stick to Aluminium. The
term Aluminum is virtually unknown in Australia, although we are aware
that's how the yanks spell it. The same applies to colour vs color,
theatre vs theater, organisation vs organization, etc etc. We are
bombarded by both UK and USA television shows and culture, so we learn
to cope with the differences.
Glenn.
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| Dave Martindale 2008-03-11, 5:25 pm |
| glenbadd <glennbaddeley@yahoo.com.au> writes:
>I'm in "British English" country, so I'll stick to Aluminium. The
>term Aluminum is virtually unknown in Australia, although we are aware
>that's how the yanks spell it. The same applies to colour vs color,
>theatre vs theater, organisation vs organization, etc etc. We are
>bombarded by both UK and USA television shows and culture, so we learn
>to cope with the differences.
A Canadian who moved to the USA was heard to complain about the US
spelling of "colour". It takes longer to type in the USA, because it
becomes C-O-L-O-U-backspace-R.
:-)
Dave
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| From: glennbaddeley@yahoo.com.au (glenbadd)
On Mar 7, 1:34 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
glenbadd wrote:
Bare aluminium immediately oxides on exposure to air, forming a thin
layer of aluminium oxide.
Note the spelling, "Aluminum" in US, "Aluminium" in rest of world?
Glenn.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Note that Aluminum was the original spelling, and was
changed to Aluminium in England at a later date. The same goes for color
and colour.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium
has some interesting info:
"Present-day spelling
In the UK and other countries using British spelling, only aluminium is
used. In the United States, the spelling aluminium is largely unknown,
and the spelling aluminum predominates.[26][27] The Canadian Oxford
Dictionary prefers aluminum, whereas the Australian Macquarie Dictionary
prefers aluminium. The spelling in virtually all other languages is
analogous to the -ium ending.
The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) adopted
Aluminium as the standard international name for the element in 1990,
but three years later recognized aluminum as an acceptable variant.
Hence their periodic table includes both, but places aluminium first.
[28] IUPAC officially prefers the use of Aluminium in its internal
publications, although several IUPAC publications use the spelling
aluminum.[29]"
I'm in "British English" country, so I'll stick to Aluminium. The term
Aluminum is virtually unknown in Australia, although we are aware that's
how the yanks spell it. The same applies to colour vs color, theatre vs
theater, organisation vs organization, etc etc. We are bombarded by both
UK and USA television shows and culture, so we learn to cope with the
differences.
Glenn.
-------------------------- The term Aluminium is Vulgar Latin., probably
from when they discovered & first named it =3D=3D in Spanish the term is=
Amuninio which remained the same from it's original name form & it
coincides with the translation to Aluminum in English Vernacular..
Roy Q.T. ~ US/NCU ~ E.E. Technician
[have tools, will travel]
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