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Clive Dive

2005-10-21, 6:21 pm

Just caught the tailend of a Radio topic on American Beauty Pageants.{it
was a long and boring wait in a traffic jam on the M6 and I was 'dial
surfing' } One of the contestants in the Miss Louisiana comp was an
'Electrical Engineering Major'. Just wondered what this represented
qualification / education wise and what would be a UK equivalent? Is it
a vocational qualification, a recognised trade level or like a GCSE Or A
level? Not being facetious, just intrigued!!


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Paul Hovnanian P.E.

2005-10-21, 7:21 pm

Clive Dive wrote:
>
> Just caught the tailend of a Radio topic on American Beauty Pageants.{it
> was a long and boring wait in a traffic jam on the M6 and I was 'dial
> surfing' } One of the contestants in the Miss Louisiana comp was an
> 'Electrical Engineering Major'. Just wondered what this represented
> qualification / education wise and what would be a UK equivalent? Is it
> a vocational qualification, a recognised trade level or like a GCSE Or A
> level? Not being facetious, just intrigued!!


Typically, it means that one is enrolled in a university or college that
offers a 4 year bachelor's degree in electrical engineering. I would
expect that it would also include having been accepted into that
school's EE program.

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Clive Dive

2005-10-21, 7:21 pm


What does the 'Major' bit mean? sorry if I am being a thick Brit!
Does it mean 'doing a few subjects but EE is the main one'?



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hrhofmann@att.net

2005-10-22, 12:21 pm


Clive Dive wrote:
> What does the 'Major' bit mean? sorry if I am being a thick Brit!
> Does it mean 'doing a few subjects but EE is the main one'?
>
>
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An EE degree typically means that the possessor of the degree has
completed a four or 5-year course of study, majoring in electrical
engineering subjects. The degree is usually a bachelor of Science in
Electrical Engineering. The subjects studied can be a broad spectrum of
EE courses, with some choice of major courses in the junior and senior
year leading to computers or circuits or some sub-specialty.

H. R.(Bob) Hofmann

Bud--

2005-10-22, 2:21 pm

Clive Dive wrote:
> What does the 'Major' bit mean? sorry if I am being a thick Brit!
> Does it mean 'doing a few subjects but EE is the main one'?
>


In most university divisions a degree has a major and a minor. One might
get a degree in education with a major in physics and a minor in math.
The 'major' requires more classwork than the 'minor'. One could have 2
majors (or, I suppose, more). I would guess that since most degrees have
a major, the degree was stated as an EE major, but I've never heard of
an engineering degree that has a stated major or minor. (But then this
was a beauty pagent.)

Bud--
chuck

2005-10-23, 5:21 pm

As another example, if a student wishes to pursue a four-year college
course of study leading to a bachelor's degree in, say, mathematics,
then mathematics would be the "major."

While it varies with the institution, only about half of the subjects
that must be studied during the four years would be mathematics courses!
The remainder would be courses in rhetoric, sociology, history, physical
science, philosophy, art, music appreciation, quantum mechanics and the
like. If the student elects to pursue a minor (say, chemistry) in
addition to the major, then he would be required to complete a number of
courses in the minor field also.

In general, a four-year degree requires completing approximately 40 4.5
month courses each of which meets an average of 3 classroom hours per week.

Can you share with us how this differs in England?

Chuck





Bud-- wrote:
> Clive Dive wrote:
>
>
> In most university divisions a degree has a major and a minor. One might
> get a degree in education with a major in physics and a minor in math.
> The 'major' requires more classwork than the 'minor'. One could have 2
> majors (or, I suppose, more). I would guess that since most degrees have
> a major, the degree was stated as an EE major, but I've never heard of
> an engineering degree that has a stated major or minor. (But then this
> was a beauty pagent.)
>
> Bud--

Clive Dive

2005-10-23, 6:21 pm

Varies greatly depending on the subject

eg in the 70's an EE degree consisted of 30+ hours a week covering
practical and theory, interspersed with a bit of Mech Eng and took 3
years.
Presently my youngest has just started a degree in Sport an Excercise
Science; 3 years and about 11hours per week. Thanks to our 'government'
she will be in debt for years after paying fees and accommodation via a
Student Loan.
"University education for everyone as long as everyone can afford
it"...sorry about that bit of a rant but i really pi55es me off!! Our
present government had their Uni education paid by the State but don't
feel fit enough to do the same for present generation...sorry

Scottie the engineer on Star Trek was given the persona of a token Scot
as the Jocks were meant to be the best engineers...wonder if he had to
take out a student loan?...sorry again!


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Nobody Here

2005-10-25, 9:21 am

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:46:15 +0000 (UTC), Clive Dive wrote:
> Varies greatly depending on the subject
>
> eg in the 70's an EE degree consisted of 30+ hours a week covering
> practical and theory, interspersed with a bit of Mech Eng and took 3
> years.
> Presently my youngest has just started a degree in Sport an Excercise
> Science; 3 years and about 11hours per week. Thanks to our 'government'
> she will be in debt for years after paying fees and accommodation via a
> Student Loan.


And thanks to the previous government she can now do something that
she can call a university degree in something that in the '70s would
have been a polytechnic certificate at best.

Please don't take that as an indictment of your daughter, it's not.
It's an indictment of the system - 11 hours a week for 3 years for
a degree in "sports science" is hardly in the same league as a
degree in EE from the 1970s. *That* makes me pi55ed off.

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TKM

2005-11-05, 6:21 pm


"Bud--" <remove.BudNews@isp.com> wrote in message
news:6083c$435a7009$4213eacf$10599@DIALUPUSA.NET...
> Clive Dive wrote:
>
> In most university divisions a degree has a major and a minor. One might
> get a degree in education with a major in physics and a minor in math. The
> 'major' requires more classwork than the 'minor'. One could have 2 majors
> (or, I suppose, more). I would guess that since most degrees have a major,
> the degree was stated as an EE major, but I've never heard of an
> engineering degree that has a stated major or minor. (But then this was a
> beauty pagent.)
>
> Bud--


Perhaps not any more. Mine did some 40 years ago, however. I have an EE
degree with a minor in illuminating engineering.

TKM


TKM

2005-11-05, 6:21 pm


"Clive Dive" <penos1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4d7c5c1d2b428d75aac217acd9620d2b.115311@mygate.mailgate.org...
> Varies greatly depending on the subject
>
> eg in the 70's an EE degree consisted of 30+ hours a week covering
> practical and theory, interspersed with a bit of Mech Eng and took 3
> years.
> Presently my youngest has just started a degree in Sport an Excercise
> Science; 3 years and about 11hours per week. Thanks to our 'government'
> she will be in debt for years after paying fees and accommodation via a
> Student Loan.
> "University education for everyone as long as everyone can afford
> it"...sorry about that bit of a rant but i really pi55es me off!! Our
> present government had their Uni education paid by the State but don't
> feel fit enough to do the same for present generation...sorry
>
> Scottie the engineer on Star Trek was given the persona of a token Scot
> as the Jocks were meant to be the best engineers...wonder if he had to
> take out a student loan?...sorry again!
>
>
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Students graduating with thousands of dollars of education debt are
certainly the rule rather than the exception in the US. My own two
daughters saw tuitions and fees rising 10-15 percent each year for the 4
years (fortunately, sequentially) they were each in school. Both went to
good private schools; the top schools were worse. The state schools were
not as bad.

TKM


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