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phil-news-nospam@ipal.net

2005-06-26, 11:25 pm

What types of appliances require a disconnecting means nearby?

Maybe it might be easier to answer which do NOT require it.

My father's electric water heater has no disconnecting means other than
going out to the garage where the panel is and flipping it's breaker off.
There is a junction box where some watertight flex conduit goes to the
tank. It would have been easy enough to have a disconnect there. But
would there be an issue with having a disconnect in a closet dedicated
to the water heater due to possible corrosion effects or such?

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Ed Price

2005-06-27, 4:25 am


<phil-news-nospam@ipal.net> wrote in message
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quote:

> What types of appliances require a disconnecting means nearby?
>
> Maybe it might be easier to answer which do NOT require it.
>
> My father's electric water heater has no disconnecting means other than
> going out to the garage where the panel is and flipping it's breaker off.
> There is a junction box where some watertight flex conduit goes to the
> tank. It would have been easy enough to have a disconnect there. But
> would there be an issue with having a disconnect in a closet dedicated
> to the water heater due to possible corrosion effects or such?
>
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Phil:

Anecdotal only, but I have never seen an "appliance" with a local
disconnect. (No experience with water heaters, all mine have been gas.) The
only place I see disconnects being used is when a feed is provided for a
large outside load, like the air conditioning compressor assembly, a spa, or
a large grill.

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Ed
WB6WSN
El Cajon, CA USA


Andrew Gabriel

2005-06-27, 12:25 pm

In article <d9n91m115cc@news4.newsguy.com>,
phil-news-nospam@ipal.net writes:
quote:

>What types of appliances require a disconnecting means nearby?


Probably depends which country.

In UK, a stove/hob is the only thing I can think of where a switch
must be provided nearby (within 2 metres IIRC).

A second category is isolation switching for maintenance, which
just about everything except lighting requires. The switch does
not have to be nearby, but unless it is near enough to be directly
under the control of anyone performing maintenance, it must be
able to be locked off with a lock/key supplied and held only by
the maintenance person. The isolation switch can be a plug and
socket.

A third category is emergency switching, which can be complex.
It would not necessarily require switching nearby, although it
does in some cases require switching in a certain place which
might be near or far from the appliance, such as a fireman's
switch for disabling all high voltage sign supplies which must be
at the front of a building and a certain height from the ground,
so it can be operated by a standard hooked pole carried by fire
engines.

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Andrew Gabriel

phil-news-nospam@ipal.net

2005-06-27, 12:25 pm

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 20:15:03 -0700 Ed Price <edprice@cox.net> wrote:
|
| <phil-news-nospam@ipal.net> wrote in message
| news:d9n91m115cc@news4.newsguy.com...
|> What types of appliances require a disconnecting means nearby?
|>
|> Maybe it might be easier to answer which do NOT require it.
|>
|> My father's electric water heater has no disconnecting means other than
|> going out to the garage where the panel is and flipping it's breaker off.
|> There is a junction box where some watertight flex conduit goes to the
|> tank. It would have been easy enough to have a disconnect there. But
|> would there be an issue with having a disconnect in a closet dedicated
|> to the water heater due to possible corrosion effects or such?
|>
|> --
|> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> | Phil Howard KA9WGN | http://linuxhomepage.com/
|> http://ham.org/ |
|> | (first name) at ipal.net | http://phil.ipal.org/
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|
| Phil:
|
| Anecdotal only, but I have never seen an "appliance" with a local
| disconnect. (No experience with water heaters, all mine have been gas.) The
| only place I see disconnects being used is when a feed is provided for a
| large outside load, like the air conditioning compressor assembly, a spa, or
| a large grill.

A plug is a valid service disconnect. To service the appliance, unplug it.
The range has a plug. The dryer has a plug. The central A/C/heat has a
switch inside, and a pull-out outside. The water heater has a breaker in
the panel out in the garage (as does everything else).

So far the water heater has been a zero-maintenance item (as has the range
and dryer). I can't say the same for the A/C (it has been serviced over a
dozen times for various failures in the 6 years since the house was built,
twice in the past 2 month).

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me@home.com

2005-06-28, 4:25 am

If in US, NEC article 590 (if I remember right)
Disconnect required line of site, which is why the A/C unit has one
outside. Most appliances tend to be in basement, if you have one. Plug
connections are suitable as a disconnect. There are exceptions to the
line of site rule, but none of them exist in a house.

Exception 1: over 600 volts AC
Exception 2: Only trained people will work on it (with written safety
program)
Exception 3: Local disconnect would be unsafe (does not mean
inconvenient)

Fitting the switch into the closet may also create another violation
if there is not suitable working space to access the switch, by
standing directly in front of it, without obstruction.

There is no reason that a small selfcontained circuit breaker could
not be mounted to the top of the water heater, CAREFULLY. As long as
it faces the closet door. There should not be any corrosion or you
will have other problems.

On 26 Jun 2005 22:08:54 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote:
quote:

>What types of appliances require a disconnecting means nearby?
>
>Maybe it might be easier to answer which do NOT require it.
>
>My father's electric water heater has no disconnecting means other than
>going out to the garage where the panel is and flipping it's breaker off.
>There is a junction box where some watertight flex conduit goes to the
>tank. It would have been easy enough to have a disconnect there. But
>would there be an issue with having a disconnect in a closet dedicated
>to the water heater due to possible corrosion effects or such?


Roy Q.T.

2005-06-28, 4:25 am

I am yet to familiarize myself with all the codes regarding this but I
believe where ever the disconnect or breaker is too far from the
equipment it supplies, you can, if not required to, put a local
disconnect accessible or insight of the unit...

I remember back in my fathers house, I switched the receptacle to shut
our heater off without the hassle of reaching down and unplugging it,
(we shut it off often, tropical weather has it's perks) later I was told
I could put a " Timer " in (back when all Energy Saving Ideas started)
so I replaced the switch box with a Timer, but I don't remember if I
hardwired it our just Timed the Receptacle..... knowing me I probably
Hardwired it to make it look secure & professional. [needlesstosay it
was a smash back then]..... it also sides as a disconnect on the
Manual/Off position. The heater was enclosed in a nice long weather
resistant comparment along with the laundry equipment.

You could probably Connect up a Timer off of the J-Box & attach your
Flex like we did., I've yet to check all codes in compliance with this
nowday. Roy

[if you're worried about corrosion from humidity, place some silica gel
packettes or cylinders inside the timer and around the unit floor]=AE

From: phil-news-nospam@ipal.net
What types of appliances require a disconnecting means nearby?
Maybe it might be easier to answer which do NOT require it.
My father's electric water heater has no disconnecting means other than
going out to the garage where the panel is and flipping it's breaker
off. There is a junction box where some watertight flex conduit goes to
the tank. It would have been easy enough to have a disconnect there. But
would there be an issue with having a disconnect in a closet dedicated
to the water heater due to possible corrosion effects or such?
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phil-news-nospam@ipal.net

2005-06-28, 4:25 am

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:58:36 GMT me@home.com wrote:

| If in US, NEC article 590 (if I remember right)
| Disconnect required line of site, which is why the A/C unit has one
| outside. Most appliances tend to be in basement, if you have one. Plug
| connections are suitable as a disconnect. There are exceptions to the
| line of site rule, but none of them exist in a house.
|
| Exception 1: over 600 volts AC
| Exception 2: Only trained people will work on it (with written safety
| program)
| Exception 3: Local disconnect would be unsafe (does not mean
| inconvenient)
|
| Fitting the switch into the closet may also create another violation
| if there is not suitable working space to access the switch, by
| standing directly in front of it, without obstruction.

Although the water heater tank fills the closet, there is plenty of
space to access where the switch would be. I would have no trouble
installing a switch there. But if they want the standard working
space in front of the switch facing it, there isn't, because it
would be on the wall to the side, right next to the door, directly
above where a light switch would be. In fact, on the opposite wall,
next to the door on the door's hinge side, is a light switch to turn
on the light in the closet.

The switch would be easily and safely reachable, despite there not
being space in the closet to literally stand in front of it. You
can stand in the space in front of the tank itself and easily see
the side of the junction box where the switch would go, and can
easily reach it. So if I put one there, it would be safe with
respect to reaching it. The tank is not above shoulder level.


| There is no reason that a small selfcontained circuit breaker could
| not be mounted to the top of the water heater, CAREFULLY. As long as
| it faces the closet door. There should not be any corrosion or you
| will have other problems.

I would not attach it to the tank itself. I would attach it to the
wall on the side where the junction box is, so that it would clearly
be off to anyone servicing the tank, if that would ever be needed.
I could, in theory, turn the switch sideways so it faces the door,
but I see no reason to as it would be as easy to operate when facing
the other sidewall where the light switch is.

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me@home.com

2005-06-29, 4:25 am

The point of not having obstructions in front of the switch are so
that you may work on the circuit safely, without leaning against a
grounded water tank while working on potentially hot wires. Even
though only an idiot would work hot to save a dozen steps.

Working clearance for a switch or electrical enclosure is a 30" wide,
36" deep and heighth to the ceiling. Nothing may occupy that space,
permanent or not. A closet door would not be an obstruction since it
is meant to move out of the way.

On 28 Jun 2005 06:19:23 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote:
quote:

>On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:58:36 GMT me@home.com wrote:
>
>| If in US, NEC article 590 (if I remember right)
>| Disconnect required line of site, which is why the A/C unit has one
>| outside. Most appliances tend to be in basement, if you have one. Plug
>| connections are suitable as a disconnect. There are exceptions to the
>| line of site rule, but none of them exist in a house.
>|
>| Exception 1: over 600 volts AC
>| Exception 2: Only trained people will work on it (with written safety
>| program)
>| Exception 3: Local disconnect would be unsafe (does not mean
>| inconvenient)
>|
>| Fitting the switch into the closet may also create another violation
>| if there is not suitable working space to access the switch, by
>| standing directly in front of it, without obstruction.
>
>Although the water heater tank fills the closet, there is plenty of
>space to access where the switch would be. I would have no trouble
>installing a switch there. But if they want the standard working
>space in front of the switch facing it, there isn't, because it
>would be on the wall to the side, right next to the door, directly
>above where a light switch would be. In fact, on the opposite wall,
>next to the door on the door's hinge side, is a light switch to turn
>on the light in the closet.
>
>The switch would be easily and safely reachable, despite there not
>being space in the closet to literally stand in front of it. You
>can stand in the space in front of the tank itself and easily see
>the side of the junction box where the switch would go, and can
>easily reach it. So if I put one there, it would be safe with
>respect to reaching it. The tank is not above shoulder level.
>
>
>| There is no reason that a small selfcontained circuit breaker could
>| not be mounted to the top of the water heater, CAREFULLY. As long as
>| it faces the closet door. There should not be any corrosion or you
>| will have other problems.
>
>I would not attach it to the tank itself. I would attach it to the
>wall on the side where the junction box is, so that it would clearly
>be off to anyone servicing the tank, if that would ever be needed.
>I could, in theory, turn the switch sideways so it faces the door,
>but I see no reason to as it would be as easy to operate when facing
>the other sidewall where the light switch is.




phil-news-nospam@ipal.net

2005-07-01, 4:25 am

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 01:57:15 GMT me@home.com wrote:

| The point of not having obstructions in front of the switch are so
| that you may work on the circuit safely, without leaning against a
| grounded water tank while working on potentially hot wires. Even
| though only an idiot would work hot to save a dozen steps.
|
| Working clearance for a switch or electrical enclosure is a 30" wide,
| 36" deep and heighth to the ceiling. Nothing may occupy that space,
| permanent or not. A closet door would not be an obstruction since it
| is meant to move out of the way.

So having the clearance is considered more important than having
a nearby disconnect?

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Roy Q.T.

2005-07-01, 4:25 am


Re: disconnecting means nearby

Group: sci.engr.electrical.compliance Date: Fri, Jul 1, 2005, 1:39am
(EDT+4) From: phil-news-nospam@ipal.net
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 01:57:15 GMT me@home.com wrote:
| The point of not having obstructions in front of the switch are so |
that you may work on the circuit safely, without leaning against a |
grounded water tank while working on potentially hot wires. Even |
though only an "idiot" would work hot to save a dozen steps.

<why an idiot> , A VERY TEDIOUS CAREFUL PERSON could do it, and no
clocks or other circuits would be affected, in a commercial Locale you
may not have the luxury of shutting off the power either.


Working clearance for a switch or electrical enclosure is a 30" wide, |
36" deep and heighth to the ceiling. Nothing may occupy that space, |
permanent or not. A closet door would not be an obstruction since it |
is meant to move out of the way.


So having the clearance is considered more important than having a
nearby disconnect?
----------------------------------------------

This is bogus Phil, in real life not even the insurance inspector will
go with a ruler to your house and measure the clearance of your
cutoff/switchbox as long as it's in an obvious plain sight area,
accessible and clear of operational obstructions. it's far better than
that 1900type box you said you have with the cable straight run into it
without recourse but the breaker, you could piggy back a switchbox or
timer off the Jbox with some raceway....up to eye level. Later',

Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]

phil-news-nospam@ipal.net

2005-07-01, 12:25 pm

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:12:56 -0400 Roy Q.T. <ROYKEY@webtv.net> wrote:

| This is bogus Phil, in real life not even the insurance inspector will
| go with a ruler to your house and measure the clearance of your
| cutoff/switchbox as long as it's in an obvious plain sight area,
| accessible and clear of operational obstructions. it's far better than
| that 1900type box you said you have with the cable straight run into it
| without recourse but the breaker, you could piggy back a switchbox or
| timer off the Jbox with some raceway....up to eye level. Later',

So tell me what you think. The close just barely fits the water heater.
There is about 4 inches of space between tank and wall on the left, the
back, and the right. There's about 8 inches from the door when closed
to the tank. The tank is about 48 inches high. There is a junction box
on the wall on the right about 6 inches back from the door frame from
which the flex conduit emerges. I could replace that with one of those
small one circuit breakers boxes like commonly used for spas. But there
is no space to work in directly in front of that box since it faces to
the side where the tank is. It is about 18 inches above the top level
of the tank. The big question is whether adding a disconnect is more in
compliance than not adding one.

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Roy Q.T.

2005-07-01, 6:25 pm


Re: disconnecting means nearby

Group: sci.engr.electrical.compliance Date: Fri, Jul 1, 2005, 6:52am
(EDT+4) From: phil-news-nospam@ipal.net
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:12:56 -0400 Roy Q.T. <ROYKEY@webtv.net> wrote:
| This is bogus Phil

The big question is whether adding a disconnect is more in compliance
than not adding one.
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Look if that is what you are concerned with, as it is, it is not in
compliance, okay, all you have to do is empty the 4-fter, take it out
and run a proper circuit for a disconnect, if this is in your house
(imo) the small breaker box will look too industrious, run some raceway,
pipe if you don't care about looks, and place another box directly
behind above the little buger and put your disconnecting device there in
plain view of the doorway... and re-install your precious water heater
that way.

If someone in the near future is working on it and someone else doesn't
know and sees the breaker off while you're half way into it., they won't
flip it on a kill you wondering why you've shut it off.....

Personally I'd think a man of your caliber would take some pride and add
every convenience & professionalism in the installation & products he
uses in his own home......To many Rotgens still bugging you ? go get
deconed again };-)

& " Have A Nice Weekend "

Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]

Roy Q.T.

2005-07-01, 6:25 pm


Re: disconnecting means nearby ~ et al

Phil Howard KA9WGN
----------------------------------------------

I'll tell you one thing Phil: I haven't had this much fun since they
closed down TheGlobe.Com, good times.
Let's Do a good job, compliance is easy., safety, neatness & convenience
should be Bi-Products of it where available.

Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]

phil-news-nospam@ipal.net

2005-07-01, 11:25 pm

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:45:42 -0400 Roy Q.T. <ROYKEY@webtv.net> wrote:

| Look if that is what you are concerned with, as it is, it is not in
| compliance, okay, all you have to do is empty the 4-fter, take it out
| and run a proper circuit for a disconnect, if this is in your house
| (imo) the small breaker box will look too industrious, run some raceway,
| pipe if you don't care about looks, and place another box directly
| behind above the little buger and put your disconnecting device there in
| plain view of the doorway... and re-install your precious water heater
| that way.

Placed there, it would not be reachable without first removing the
water heater.


| Personally I'd think a man of your caliber would take some pride and add
| every convenience & professionalism in the installation & products he
| uses in his own home......To many Rotgens still bugging you ? go get
| deconed again };-)

I'd just as soon put the disconnect on the side wall right where the
flex conduit already is. This is a situation where it is not possible
to comply with every rule. Either the space requirement is violated,
or the need for a nearby disconnect is violated. I'd rather have the
disconnect. I don't need the legally required space to work on the
disconnect itself.

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Roy Q.T.

2005-07-02, 4:25 am


From: phil-news-nospam@ipal.net
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:45:42 -0400 Roy Q.T. <ROYKEY@webtv.net> wrote:
| Look if that is what you are concerned with, as it is, it is not in |
compliance, okay, all you have to do is empty the 4-fter, take it out |
and run a proper circuit for a disconnect, if this is in your house |
(imo) the small breaker box will look too industrious, run some raceway,
| pipe if you don't care about looks, and place another box directly |
behind above the little buger and put your disconnecting device there in
| plain view of the doorway... and re-install your precious water heater
| that way.
Placed there, it would not be reachable without first removing the water
heater.
| Personally I'd think a man of your caliber would take some pride and
add | every convenience & professionalism in the installation & products
he | uses in his own home......To many Rotgens still bugging you ? go
get | deconed again };-)
I'd just as soon put the disconnect on the side wall right where the
flex conduit already is. This is a situation where it is not possible to
comply with every rule. Either the space requirement is violated, or the
need for a nearby disconnect is violated. I'd rather have the
disconnect. I don't need the legally required space to work on the
disconnect itself.
---------------

Can't you remove the heater temporarily to install the disconnect in a
clearly accessible place ?

Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]

Roy Q.T.

2005-07-02, 4:25 am


This is a situation where it is not possible to comply with every rule.
Either the space requirement is violated, or the need for a nearby
disconnect is violated. I'd rather have the disconnect. I don't need the
legally required space to work on the disconnect itself.

----------------------------------------------

That is another NEC problem all together., like what they refer to when
they say The Bible contradicts itself, the lesser sin must get squelched
in order for the general idea behind Divine Principle to take
presidence.

That is why I find the NEC quite
cumbersome at times.

Many rules apply to a given subject, but specific rules only apply when
they can truly be applicable };-) does that make sense ? I hope so.

Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]

phil-news-nospam@ipal.net

2005-07-02, 12:25 pm

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:53:35 -0400 Roy Q.T. <ROYKEY@webtv.net> wrote:

| Can't you remove the heater temporarily to install the disconnect in a
| clearly accessible place ?

Yes, it is possible to remove the heater temporarily. But it is needless
since I can install the disconnect even if I leave the heater in place.
So thus it seems silly to remove the heater for such purpose. The added
work of installing while the heater is present is much smaller than the
work of removing and re-installing the heater.

If the fact that it is _possible_ to remove the heater allows considering
the entire closet space without the heater to be the working space, then
I suppose that is an interpretation that lets the disconnect meet the space
requirement. But as for _actually_ removing it to do the work, no need.

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phil-news-nospam@ipal.net

2005-07-02, 12:25 pm

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 23:08:01 -0400 Roy Q.T. <ROYKEY@webtv.net> wrote:

| That is another NEC problem all together., like what they refer to when
| they say The Bible contradicts itself, the lesser sin must get squelched
| in order for the general idea behind Divine Principle to take
| presidence.
|
| That is why I find the NEC quite
| cumbersome at times.
|
| Many rules apply to a given subject, but specific rules only apply when
| they can truly be applicable };-) does that make sense ? I hope so.

That does make sense. I consider lacking a disconnect to be the greater
sin, as compared to lacking the space clearance (by virtue of being able
to install it anyway).

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Roy Q.T.

2005-07-02, 12:25 pm


But as for _actually_ removing it to do the work, no need.
--------------------------------------
Phil: Glad to hear that...
Good Luck & " Happy 4th of July " weekend.

Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]

Thomas Horne

2006-01-13, 3:21 pm

phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:12:56 -0400 Roy Q.T. <ROYKEY@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> | This is bogus Phil, in real life not even the insurance inspector will
> | go with a ruler to your house and measure the clearance of your
> | cutoff/switchbox as long as it's in an obvious plain sight area,
> | accessible and clear of operational obstructions. it's far better than
> | that 1900type box you said you have with the cable straight run into it
> | without recourse but the breaker, you could piggy back a switchbox or
> | timer off the Jbox with some raceway....up to eye level. Later',
>
> So tell me what you think. The close just barely fits the water heater.
> There is about 4 inches of space between tank and wall on the left, the
> back, and the right. There's about 8 inches from the door when closed
> to the tank. The tank is about 48 inches high. There is a junction box
> on the wall on the right about 6 inches back from the door frame from
> which the flex conduit emerges. I could replace that with one of those
> small one circuit breakers boxes like commonly used for spas. But there
> is no space to work in directly in front of that box since it faces to
> the side where the tank is. It is about 18 inches above the top level
> of the tank. The big question is whether adding a disconnect is more in
> compliance than not adding one.
>


A thirty ampere toggle switch will meet the requirements for a
disconnect. Just run a flexible conduit to a deep device box beside the
closet door and install a thirty ampere toggle switch in that box The
raceway would need to contain five conductors including the grounding
conductor.
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