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Pete

2005-07-12, 12:25 pm

Help Please

A question that keeps arising here that I've never been able to understand.

1. If I as a user modify a piece of CE certified equipment say a small control
panel, am I under any obligation to have that equipment re-certified

2. If I manufacture "in house" a piece of equipment again say a small control
panel, am I under any obligation to have that item CE certified and marked.

In both cases there would be no intention of selling the equipment on to a third
party

I've always been of the opinion that CE relates to selling / suppliers but a
definitive answer and any pointers to the applicable sections of the relevent
legislation would be more than appreciated

Pete

Jon@underthewagon.org

2005-07-13, 6:25 pm

On 12 Jul 2005 03:26:04 -0700, Pete <Pete_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
quote:

>Help Please
>
>A question that keeps arising here that I've never been able to understand.
>
>1. If I as a user modify a piece of CE certified equipment say a small control
>panel, am I under any obligation to have that equipment re-certified


If you don't resell it, then probably no. If, however, by your
modification you create something that is dangerous or causes
elctromagnetic interference, the you are potentially in the DoDos.

quote:

>2. If I manufacture "in house" a piece of equipment again say a small control
>panel, am I under any obligation to have that item CE certified and marked.
>
>In both cases there would be no intention of selling the equipment on to a third
>party


I have NO idea as to your geographic location. However, in the UK the
LVD and EMC regulations only apply to equipment 'being brought to
market'. You can view and download the Statutory Instruments from the
HMSO website. Still, if the item in question harms someone or causes
damage to property, you are still probably open to legal action at a
level dependent on the severity of the damage.
quote:

>
>I've always been of the opinion that CE relates to selling / suppliers but a
>definitive answer and any pointers to the applicable sections of the relevent
>legislation would be more than appreciated
>
>Pete



As I understand it. So, E&OE
JonH
Six in a row

2005-10-02, 11:21 am

read this

http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterpris...es/emcguide.htm

you will find all relevant information written by EU-commission

:-) MP



On 12 Jul 2005 03:26:04 -0700, Pete <Pete_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

>Help Please
>
>A question that keeps arising here that I've never been able to understand.
>
>1. If I as a user modify a piece of CE certified equipment say a small control
>panel, am I under any obligation to have that equipment re-certified
>
>2. If I manufacture "in house" a piece of equipment again say a small control
>panel, am I under any obligation to have that item CE certified and marked.
>
>In both cases there would be no intention of selling the equipment on to a third
>party
>
>I've always been of the opinion that CE relates to selling / suppliers but a
>definitive answer and any pointers to the applicable sections of the relevent
>legislation would be more than appreciated
>
>Pete


billb@abc.net

2006-01-28, 6:21 pm

1. In Europe the system is based on self certification, therefore if you
modify a piece of equipment you can self certify your panel.
The modified panel will have to meet the requirements of The Provision and
Use of Work Equipment Regulations 1998 (PUWER), if the panel controls
machinery in the UK.
For an electrical machine control panel I would suggest it should comply
with EN 60204.
For details of PUWER See http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1998/19982306.htm
If the panel is to control a press, or an injection moulding machine or a
woodworking machine, I would suggest you also study the requirements of the
Machinery Directive for this type of machine and refer to the relevant
harmonised European standards.
If the panel is not used to control machinery, it should meet the
requirements of the Low Voltage Directive and if it is in the UK to do this
it should meet the requirements of the IEE Regulations, as listed in BS
7671.

2. If the panel is for an in house piece of machinery the above will still
apply.

The requirements of PUWER and the Machinery Directive are similar except
PUWER relates to machinery in use, whereas the Machinery Directive refers to
machinery for sale.

If you require advice on the above call TUV on +44 (0)121 634 8000 and speak
to Glenn or Warren.

Best regards

BillB
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